Driver Of The Day - Barcelona

[goferrarigo 0]

no, the race highlight was seeing Kimi and Massa joke in post-conference....hilarious to see. lovely unity!

Yeah but to see Kimi actually laugh on TV (i think he didn't know the camera was zoomed out). If you noticed he was asked a question right after that and he immediatly had a straight face....

this is really bad quality, but anyway...for your enjoyment

http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=r6bkQ7FCPGQ

Here is a better quality but i has the whole Press Conferance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VobdBX1E_70

Look from 7:10 - 7:33

You keep misinterpreting me and misinterpreting George. So, yes, you could easily vote for Vettel.

Is Schumikonen's name George?? I didn't know that...

[goferrarigo 0]

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[Schumikonen 2]

You keep misinterpreting me and misinterpreting George. So, yes, you could easily vote for Vettel.

If I am misinterpreting you is not on purpose and must be because you are not explaining yourself clear enough so we don't have to interpret what you say.

My point is that he didn't finish the race so he doesn't count for DOD IMO, if he does count then we have to know how much of a race count for driver to be taken into account and we can like I said about Massa vote just for a part of the race, somebody said in Vettel's thread than no matter how good you are if you don't have results, FA didn't have a result in this race, there is a point when the race is older enough that if a driver don't finish it he is consider as he finished the race, I think its a 70% of the race, Alonso didn't get to that point of the race so he can not be counted among thoses who get to and passed from that point of the race, I don't know how to explain this but I know you know what I am talking about.

[Schumikonen 2]

Yeah but to see Kimi actually laugh on TV (i think he didn't know the camera was zoomed out). If you noticed he was asked a question right after that and he immediatly had a straight face....

Here is a better quality but i has the whole Press Conferance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VobdBX1E_70

Look from 7:10 - 7:33

Is Schumikonen's name George?? I didn't know that...

My name is Tommy, isn't that a beautyful name?

[goferrarigo 0]

My name is Tommy, isn't that a beautyful name?

Yeah. It is.

Nice to meet you, Tommy

[Eric 0]

Is Schumikonen's name George?? I didn't know that...

Nope, Rainmaster=George.

[Quiet One 15]

If I am misinterpreting you is not on purpose and must be because you are not explaining yourself clear enough so we don't have to interpret what you say.

My point is that he didn't finish the race so he doesn't count for DOD IMO, if he does count then we have to know how much of a race count for driver to be taken into account and we can like I said about Massa vote just for a part of the race, somebody said in Vettel's thread than no matter how good you are if you don't have results, FA didn't have a result in this race, there is a point when the race is older enough that if a driver don't finish it he is consider as he finished the race, I think its a 70% of the race, Alonso didn't get to that point of the race so he can not be counted among thoses who get to and passed from that point of the race, I don't know how to explain this but I know you know what I am talking about.

Yes, now I understood what you mean. But still, the 70% completion of race counts towards points, DOD is a subjective decision made by us here. Like I said, you could vote for Vettel, it is not illegal, as far as I know

So, IYO dnf's should not be considered. IMO they should. Just a matter of tastes. My own opinion, basically, is that the driver of the day is that one that really stands out. The winner usually stands out, of course, but in a borefest like this race, if Vettel would have jumped from the back to the front before the first corner and then crashed, he should at least have been considered, just because the guy would have done something more interesting than the rest.

All in all, I find more surprising than a Massa running on a lighter fuel load than Kimi and finishing in a rather boring 2nd place still got 2 votes, or LH and RK who did nothing else than finishing the race in the only places they could finish unless they ****ed up somehow, got 8 votes total.

Nando got just my vote and everybody went ballistic!

Edit: I guess we will never agree on religion, or F1, but still nice to meet you, Tom

[Quiet One 15]

http://forums.autosport.com/showthread.php?threadid=100955

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A35260445

Ron Dennis disagrees...

[goferrarigo 0]

Nope, Rainmaster=George.

Yeah i know Rainmaster is George i thought maybe even Schumikonen's name is also George.... George is quite a common name so...

[Eric 0]

Yeah i know Rainmaster is George i thought maybe even Schumikonen's name is also George.... George is quite a common name so...

Yeah, but I've never actually known anyone named George until I met George.

EDIT: That sounds kind of stupid. No s##t. George as in Rainmaster.

[AleHop 0]

In the course of hailing Hamilton and puting everyone else down (they call it "objectivity"), we have learned that Alonso used less fuel than other drivers during the SC, that a BMW and a McLaren have "identical performance", and that a Ferrari overtaking a Renault at the start is only possible if the Renault has previously gone briefly off track during the warm up lap...

Always fun, always fun,...

That pretty much says it all.

[AleHop 0]

It's also quite obvious that they pushed up the revs so high as to give him pole and it cost them an engine failure... which means it was rather ridiculous going that lenghs to PLEASE THE FANS..... just my take on it...

sure the element of suprise was there Quiet One, we all knew how it was gonna end (sortoff)

don't you agree

What do you ****ing know about F1?

Any single Q3 flying lap is don with max revs!

Get it?

[AleHop 0]

Yeah but you're still ignoring the fact he nearly crashed on the warm-up lap at his home race, and the fact that despite being... was it three or four laps lighter than Kimi? Despite that advantage he still got beaten to pole position by a tenth. The Ferrari may be fast but with a 12+ kilo ballast onboard with a car that we know isn't good at doing hot laps against the R28 which we've seen consistantly be better in qually than in the race? And, as you've mentioned, to achieve his qualifying performance he had to sacrifice more soft tyres than the others. Don't get me wrong, 'nando did a good job but he was not driver of the day. He even featured 9th on the fastest lap table a full second off of Kimi who wasn't even trying that hard.

Also, the weight advantage is a big bonus off of the start and let's not forget that Felipe Massa isn't exactly the master of throttle control. By rights he should have been 2nd or 1st in to turn one and it's his mistake that prevented that. ALso, it does appear more and more that Renault thrashed that engine for a one-off shot at glory, though we'll see on that point.

Put kimi in a Renault and Nando in a Ferrari and you would know who is who. Well, in all true you wouldn't. When I saw Kubica on pole in bahrain I said oh god, what a driver. When I saw Nando on P2 with a R28 I said they have added pedals to that car for sure. Do not make me laugh if you like kimi or you don't like Nando it is up to you but do not make a comparison between R28 and 2008 Ferrari. You all Kimi fans are very c#ckie with your man driving against Massa and nobody else... But that's too easy, I like Kimi but today he is a few steps above the Nando, Hamilton and Kubica because of his Ferrari.

[Piotr 0]

The stats' will always read that Lewis beat Robert. He beat him off the line. Whether we like it or not, at Spain, that's where the race is lost or won. Get over it and fight your corner on a day when Robert looks better. Arguing a case for him on days when he was only very good and not brilliant does nothing for your reputation as a biased fan.

Note, I voted Webber for DOD, not Robert, and only objected to anyone even trying to give DOD to Hamilton.

No, Robert had a mediocre start (defended against Kovalainen who, most of you last year, claimed is better than Kubica, but lost against Hamilton, who, most of you claim, is better etc. etc.) but a good race (as stated by Hamilton himself and conveniently overlooked by the FedUp). He does not deserve DOD, and he could have been on podium, but I think Willy is growing a bit to big for his breeches.

And on the other hand (and tangent) I heard you Brits have a crisis growing - Polish plumbers are leaving ( and if you abuse Boruc's faith, so will he) and there is nobody to fix your showers. Getting a bit gamey in Good 'Ole London, no?

[AleHop 0]

http://forums.autosport.com/showthread.php?threadid=100955

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A35260445

At that time Rafa Nadal was playing Montecarlo final against Roger Federer and many people switched channel... Whatever happened at the track with some spanish guys I don't really care. I have a few Irish friends who has been bullied in england, south of england exactly, it was not at any passionate sport competition but in a normal and boring life but much much more humilliating. They left UK and went back to Connemara. Are you paranoid? What the hell are you supposed to talk about spain or spanish people giving them a lesson you should learn first. Any time you have the chance you talk about latin drivers like s##t, like Ron Dennis taught you, and now you have a new enemy among your paranoic thoughts?

Pathetic!

[cavallino 2]

Ron Dennis disagrees...

Yes I'm sure he was in the stands.

Maybe his motorhome being kicked down the grid, and inviting the Aguri and FI boys for tea and peanuts is giving him the impression that he is living like the common man now. Soon he'll tell us petrol isn't all that expensive

[maure 1]

I don't think anyone said that. But going off track on the final corner of the warm up lap doesn't help, and might well have been a vital difference. Also I think there was both a grain of truth and a dash of exaggeration to the other comments you parodied.

Well, get ready for this, not only it is being repeated (the comment "a Ferrari overtaking a Renault at the start is only possible if the Renault has previously gone briefly off track during the warm up lap")... but you, yourself, give praise to the repeat. I'll get you for it later on.

Seems quite plausible that they would. Strangely this didn't occur to me. Perhaps I was too busy hoping that Nando had made another mistake...

There is, of course, a big BIG problem with this theory (I mean aside from the denials), namely, that unless I am mistaken the Renault engine was on its second race. Little they could do to that engine to get more out of it.

Good point. I wonder why this doesn't happen.

We must be missing something. DOF probably knows something about this.

Excellent post. I would mainly add that the times in quali were very close: an extra 0.2s would have put him 6th and 0.5s longer would have put him level with the Red Bull-Renault of Webber. So having 4 laps less fuel than Webber and 5 less than the McLarens and lightest BMW surely accounts for a lot of his impressive pace in qualifying.

This is amusing to no end.

Race after race, Hamilton goes to qualify with a car lighter than Kova. When I bring it up, the lewisterics scream that 4 laps make no difference whatsoever (as absurd as most of what we hear from that camp). Now that Alonso has taken on the FERRARI, the lewisterics try to measure the weight of breath in order to find a way to undermine Alonso.

Priceless....

[maure 1]

Ron Dennis disagrees...

There is no point trying to deny FedUp's comments.

If a single spaniard left, it can only be becuase spaniards don't care about F1.

If a single spaniard farted, it can only be becuase spaniards don't care about hygiene.

If a single spaniard disagreed, it can only be becuase spaniards don't care about objectivity.

If a single spaniard spoke, it can only be becuase spaniards don't care about silence.

[cavallino 2]

Little they could do to that engine to get more out of it.

How about their driver didn't push for a pointless fast qualifying lap by overrevving the engine

Race after race, Hamilton goes to qualify with a car lighter than Kova. When I bring it up, the lewisterics scream that 4 laps make no difference whatsoever (as absurd as most of what we hear from that camp). Now that Alonso has taken on the FERRARI, the lewisterics try to measure the weight of breath in order to find a way to undermine Alonso.

Taken on the Ferrari :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Alonso is nothing but a cheap showboater.

[cavallino 2]

Any single Q3 flying lap is don with max revs!

Roobish

[BradSpeedMan 6]

Here is a better quality but i has the whole Press Conferance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VobdBX1E_70

Look from 7:10 - 7:33

ah, you're a star my friend

[BradSpeedMan 6]

Sme very strong words from the Iceman....

The best weekend of my career - Raikkonen

After a perfect weekend at the Circuit de Catalunya where Ferrari collected a 1-2 finish, World Champion Kimi Raikkonen reflects on his race. Of course, the Finn is very happy that his compatriot is ok after his heavy crash during the Spanish Grand Prix.

Kimi Raikkonen: "It was a perfect weekend for us in Barcelona. We were going really fast all the time and we didn't have the slightest problem during the sunny days here! Every time you go to a race, you think about what might happen: It is so often that something goes wrong. Many times I have won and afterwards still had the feeling that it could have gone better. It's so often that something goes wrong. Many times, even after I have won, I had the feeling that it could have gone better.

"This time I did not have that feeling: this was probably the best weekend I've ever had in my career. In this business you're not able to reach perfection, but this time we came pretty close. We started strongly on Friday's practice and we finished even stronger on Sunday. All the things we've brought onto the track worked out just fine and we also improved the speed of the car.

"I said before that the Qualifying will be a very important factor for the result of the race and obviously that was again the case at Barcelona. We made some changes to the set up already in the test session last week and we were really satisfied with the outcome. Now the car is also working on the fast lap as I want it to work.

"My first run in the Qualifying was not successful, because of the traffic and I couldn't get the tyres ready in time. But the second one was very good. I was very happy to gain the Pole Position, knowing the fuel level for the race.

"The Pole Position gives you the best chance to control the race. Obviously you have to be in Pole to win in Barcelona. My start was not that good, but still it was enough to keep my position. In the end of the day we couldn't fully maximise our strategy, while the safety car came out twice. Without that the gap to the others would have been bigger. When you lead the race, there's no reason to start to push hard to build up a bigger gap. It's better just to control the race and make sure that the gap stays as it is. Obviously it felt good to get the fastest lap, too. For me it was the first one this year.

"Of course I always hope that no one of my colleagues gets hurt. This time it was even worse to see Heikki's car in that wall. It was a big crash, but luckily he's alright.

"Winning the race was good for me and it was good for the team. We hoped to get the one-two win and we got it. Now we're leading in both of the Championships, but we have to work even harder now to keep our position. I've got such a lead that it gives me a little safety for the Championships. But it takes only one bad result and it's gone. At least we could afford a bad result, but the others can't. That might help a bit. There's a long road to go and I know very well that we are not going to have weekends like the one we had at Barcelona every time. Obviously there will be difficulties, but we have a strong car and the speed to try to win in every race.

"Next stop is Istanbul. It should be a good circuit for us, but we'll have to wait and see what happens."

Source Ferrari

www.f1technical.com

Ferrari and Kimi, a match made in heaven...

[Quiet One 15]

Yes I'm sure he was in the stands.

Maybe his motorhome being kicked down the grid, and inviting the Aguri and FI boys for tea and peanuts is giving him the impression that he is living like the common man now. Soon he'll tell us petrol isn't all that expensive

Somehow, the sarcasm of my own post was lost somewhere...

[Schumikonen 2]

Sme very strong words from the Iceman....

The best weekend of my career - Raikkonen

After a perfect weekend at the Circuit de Catalunya where Ferrari collected a 1-2 finish, World Champion Kimi Raikkonen reflects on his race. Of course, the Finn is very happy that his compatriot is ok after his heavy crash during the Spanish Grand Prix.

Kimi Raikkonen: "It was a perfect weekend for us in Barcelona. We were going really fast all the time and we didn't have the slightest problem during the sunny days here! Every time you go to a race, you think about what might happen: It is so often that something goes wrong. Many times I have won and afterwards still had the feeling that it could have gone better. It's so often that something goes wrong. Many times, even after I have won, I had the feeling that it could have gone better.

"This time I did not have that feeling: this was probably the best weekend I've ever had in my career. In this business you're not able to reach perfection, but this time we came pretty close. We started strongly on Friday's practice and we finished even stronger on Sunday. All the things we've brought onto the track worked out just fine and we also improved the speed of the car.

"I said before that the Qualifying will be a very important factor for the result of the race and obviously that was again the case at Barcelona. We made some changes to the set up already in the test session last week and we were really satisfied with the outcome. Now the car is also working on the fast lap as I want it to work.

"My first run in the Qualifying was not successful, because of the traffic and I couldn't get the tyres ready in time. But the second one was very good. I was very happy to gain the Pole Position, knowing the fuel level for the race.

"The Pole Position gives you the best chance to control the race. Obviously you have to be in Pole to win in Barcelona. My start was not that good, but still it was enough to keep my position. In the end of the day we couldn't fully maximise our strategy, while the safety car came out twice. Without that the gap to the others would have been bigger. When you lead the race, there's no reason to start to push hard to build up a bigger gap. It's better just to control the race and make sure that the gap stays as it is. Obviously it felt good to get the fastest lap, too. For me it was the first one this year.

"Of course I always hope that no one of my colleagues gets hurt. This time it was even worse to see Heikki's car in that wall. It was a big crash, but luckily he's alright.

"Winning the race was good for me and it was good for the team. We hoped to get the one-two win and we got it. Now we're leading in both of the Championships, but we have to work even harder now to keep our position. I've got such a lead that it gives me a little safety for the Championships. But it takes only one bad result and it's gone. At least we could afford a bad result, but the others can't. That might help a bit. There's a long road to go and I know very well that we are not going to have weekends like the one we had at Barcelona every time. Obviously there will be difficulties, but we have a strong car and the speed to try to win in every race.

"Next stop is Istanbul. It should be a good circuit for us, but we'll have to wait and see what happens."

Source Ferrari

www.f1technical.com

Ferrari and Kimi, a match made in heaven...

There are many things in to take into considertion, like "Good circuit for us" we vote for DOD and we don't take a look at this point, maybe is not the driver but the circuit fitting the car.

[maure 1]

How about their driver didn't push for a pointless fast qualifying lap by overrevving the engine

Taken on the Ferrari :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Alonso is nothing but a cheap showboater.

Alonso qualified ahead of Massa and a spit behind Kimi.... but I understand you blacked out the event considering your delusional take on Alonso.

Now, let's take a look at what frighten the sht out of you and what you are trying desperately to hide... just for kicks:

Race after race, Hamilton goes to qualify with a car lighter than Kova. When I bring it up, the lewisterics scream that 4 laps make no difference whatsoever (as absurd as most of what we hear from that camp). Now that Alonso has taken on the FERRARI, the lewisterics try to measure the weight of breath in order to find a way to undermine Alonso.

Pretend it away... or call Murray to do an analysis of how Hamilton has been qualifying ahead of Kova only by virtue of having a lighter car every single race this season.... amuse me.