Although not a series I would watch necessarily (well can't as its on crappy Eurosport), it was interesting to see the launch of the new F2 car, which, devoid of all the aero gubbins is actually quite a nice looking car. I believe Williams designed it.
http://www.formulatw...liams-jph1.aspx
Although I did notice is seems to take advantage of ground effect - not quiet skirts on the side but certainly low to the track.
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, Mar 03 2009 07:19 AM
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Posted 03 March 2009 - 07:19 AM
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Posted 03 March 2009 - 10:48 AM
And is the nose inspired on Kubica? 
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Posted 03 March 2009 - 06:21 PM
freaky2, on Mar 3 2009, 10:48 AM, said:
And is the nose inspired on Kubica?
There is quite a resemblance isn't there!
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Posted 03 March 2009 - 07:44 PM
I'm very interested in this series. Hopefully, without the teams, it will be much fairer than GP2. It's a shame the car isn't as good, and that does beg the question whether it will be possible to jump straight from F2 to F1, even if the car is supposed to have similar characteristics. The series is unbelievably cheap - something like £200,000 per driver per season - and demand for rides is very high, so there must be plenty of scope to build a better car for just a little more cash. Also we'll have to see whether they designed the car with overtaking in mind. All in all, a very interesting experiment from Max!
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Posted 04 March 2009 - 03:43 AM
Murray Walker, on Mar 4 2009, 06:44 AM, said:
I'm very interested in this series. Hopefully, without the teams, it will be much fairer than GP2. It's a shame the car isn't as good, and that does beg the question whether it will be possible to jump straight from F2 to F1, even if the car is supposed to have similar characteristics. The series is unbelievably cheap - something like £200,000 per driver per season - and demand for rides is very high, so there must be plenty of scope to build a better car for just a little more cash. Also we'll have to see whether they designed the car with overtaking in mind. All in all, a very interesting experiment from Max!
It could very well be the series for you Murray!
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Posted 04 March 2009 - 01:48 PM
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Posted 05 March 2009 - 03:05 PM
tbh I think it'll be another A1GP, without the countries! Exciting at 1st but ends up to be quite boring!
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 12:15 PM
Murray Walker, on Mar 4 2009, 03:48 PM, said:
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F2 won't push more drivers into F1. The old days won't return due to supply and demand.
What I mean is this.
In 1968 Formula 1 lost four notable drivers. Jim Clark perished in a Formula 2 race at Hockenheim. Mike Spence was killed in a Lotus at Indianapolis. Jo Schlesser burned to death in his Honda Formula 1 car at Rouen, and Ludovico Scarfiotti was killed at a hillclimb in Germany.
This wasn't so much the exception to the rule as much as this was the rule. Let 1 to 4 driver be killed per season almost ever season and there will be open slots for F1.
Till then, the ladder system series will take drivers with money/sponsors and/or visibility (by name, by manufacturer support) and F2 will become just GP2 and F1 and every other series out there.
Remember this, most people don't want the best driver to win, that's just a popular myth, they want the most popular driver to win, and spec series have ways to insure that the popular drivers get a good position and thus keep the spectators/attention.
I repeat, F2 will become just like GP2 and F1.
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Posted 14 March 2009 - 09:00 PM
There's only a handful of guys in F2 this year that i think are worth watching. Most of them will dissapear into nothingness or turn into Giorgio Pantano, which, effectively, is the same thing.
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Posted 15 March 2009 - 12:10 PM
To be fair, the cream will rise to the top but any aspiring F1 driver will go to GP2, as it supports F1 and thus they get their face in and around the paddock.
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Posted 15 March 2009 - 12:50 PM
Muzza, I think you will like Superleague Formula even more.
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Posted 15 March 2009 - 08:56 PM
Get Manchester City in it then maybe I will get excited about the series.
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