2008 Singapore Grand Prix

[whiskee 0]

The race will probably go under a safe formula, Hammy blocks Kimi at the start, Kubica takes advantage and goes 3rd, then nothing happens for 61 laps and they just drive to the finish line like in Valencia.

[Rainmaster 7]

The race will probably go under a safe formula, Hammy blocks Kimi at the start, Kubica takes advantage and goes 3rd, then nothing happens for 61 laps and they just drive to the finish line like in Valencia.

Don't be so optimistic, that would be far too interesting for an F1 race.

[freaky2 1]

Don't be so optimistic, that would be far too interesting for an F1 race.

I can actually see it happening.. but I'd rather Kimi tried to overtake Hamilton then either:

1. He succeeds and then passes Massa in the pits

2. They crash and Massa cruises to victory

Fair deal, isn't it? xD

[goferrarigo 0]

The race will probably go under a safe formula, Hammy blocks Kimi at the start, Kubica takes advantage and goes 3rd, then nothing happens for 61 laps and they just drive to the finish line like in Valencia.

I think a SC will out just coz soo many cars are allready crashing...

[Rainmaster 7]

I can actually see it happening.. but I'd rather Kimi tried to overtake Hamilton then either:

1. He succeeds and then passes Massa in the pits

2. They crash and Massa cruises to victory

Fair deal, isn't it? xD

Well as long as Rossi gets his title at Motegi, I'm not too fussed what happens in the F1 'race'. But yeah that sounds pretty fair

[AleHop 0]

Q: "Will you work on your strategy for tomorrow?"

FA: "We will need to work on a miracle for tomorrow"

He sounded very very disappointed. He kept saying "It's over. It's over".

Bah, get up you sissie!

He'll get up after he pumps some fuel through Flavio's a## hole throat.

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[freaky2 1]

Well as long as Rossi gets his title at Motegi, I'm not too fussed what happens in the F1 'race'. But yeah that sounds pretty fair

Oh yeah! By the way do you know what time is the MotoGp race on? I don't know if it's better to sleep and wake up to watch it or just watch all the motorbike races and then sleep until the F1 race XD

[freaky2 1]

He'll get up after he pumps some fuel through Flavio's a## hole throat.

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I'm with Alonso this time, such bad luck... AND my bets are quite useless by now too

[AleHop 0]

There goes my prediction of the last 4 races being won by Alonso

This one was the good one but please stop doing predictions.

[Rainmaster 7]

Oh yeah! By the way do you know what time is the MotoGp race on? I don't know if it's better to sleep and wake up to watch it or just watch all the motorbike races and then sleep until the F1 race XD

It's on at 5:15am over here in the UK, which is just far too late or early for me to be up So sadly I won't be able to watch it live...

I'll just make sure I have time to watch the MotoGP before the F1 starts.

[AleHop 0]

Nah i rather he keeps him held up... Kimi seems to have found his pace to some extent again..

Actually I think that's what they'll try to do. The start will be so important tomorrow, anything can happen.

Edited: some pictures.

It's so frustrating!

[YHR 0]

Well the little guy that just can't get any respect, has wiped the floor with the rest of the field.....again

I think we will see a very aggressive KR. 3rd place does nothing for him. Look for him to bang wheels with Hamilton early on in an effort to get by him in the first corner. What has he got to lose. So I see a no holds barred, KR taking every chance he needs to, in an effort to pass Hamilton. He will try to make room where there isn't any, and then this board will really heat up!!!!!!

How you have behaved on the track earlier in the season's can come back and bite you in the arse. Is any driver out there going to give Hamilton any break, to help him out?????. His claim of knowing everything, and being the best is going to be fresh on every drivers mind. No love lost between Hamilton and most of the grid, and on this track you need favors to help pass.

If KR gets ahead of Hamilton, FM will have a cake walk tomorrow.

Tight track, lots of walls, I think we will see the safety car. So who knows. Of course if it rains, shake the dice to pick a winner. Again , I claim wet weather races take the skill of driving out of the equation. It just becomes a big crap shoot.

[AleHop 0]

Well the little guy that just can't get any respect, has wiped the floor with the rest of the field.....again

I think we will see a very aggressive KR. 3rd place does nothing for him. Look for him to bang wheels with Hamilton early on in an effort to get by him in the first corner. What has he got to lose. So I see a no holds barred, KR taking every chance he needs to, in an effort to pass Hamilton. He will try to make room where there isn't any, and then this board will really heat up!!!!!!

How you have behaved on the track earlier in the season's can come back and bite you in the arse. Is any driver out there going to give Hamilton any break, to help him out?????. His claim of knowing everything, and being the best is going to be fresh on every drivers mind. No love lost between Hamilton and most of the grid, and on this track you need favors to help pass.

If KR gets ahead of Hamilton, FM will have a cake walk tomorrow.

Tight track, lots of walls, I think we will see the safety car. So who knows. Of course if it rains, shake the dice to pick a winner. Again , I claim wet weather races take the skill of driving out of the equation. It just becomes a big crap shoot.

I think you are too excited right now. Massa's done a great job today but it's tomorrow when he's to earn the points. About Raikkonen banging wheels with Hamilton he has to find them first, don't you think? It's a bit early to start with if's, would's...

[Rainmaster 7]

Well the little guy that just can't get any respect, has wiped the floor with the rest of the field.....again

I think we will see a very aggressive KR. 3rd place does nothing for him. Look for him to bang wheels with Hamilton early on in an effort to get by him in the first corner. What has he got to lose. So I see a no holds barred, KR taking every chance he needs to, in an effort to pass Hamilton. He will try to make room where there isn't any, and then this board will really heat up!!!!!!

How you have behaved on the track earlier in the season's can come back and bite you in the arse. Is any driver out there going to give Hamilton any break, to help him out?????. His claim of knowing everything, and being the best is going to be fresh on every drivers mind. No love lost between Hamilton and most of the grid, and on this track you need favors to help pass.

If KR gets ahead of Hamilton, FM will have a cake walk tomorrow.

Tight track, lots of walls, I think we will see the safety car. So who knows. Of course if it rains, shake the dice to pick a winner. Again , I claim wet weather races take the skill of driving out of the equation. It just becomes a big crap shoot.

This is such a ridiculous thing to say, I know it's an opinion but it's a tough one to respect. Yes wet racing involves luck more than others, but driving skill does becomes more important. Almost every great driver F1 ever had was great in wet conditions too, Senna, Stewart, Clark, Fangio, Schumacher and the list goes on. I guess Ayrton Senna was just a really lucky driver, especially Donnington 93. Apply some logic here, if wet races have nothing to do with skill (which implies everything to do with luck), then you'd see a different winner for each wet race, so why is it that some drivers (Hamilton, Alonso, Vettel) usually shine and some drivers (dare I say Massa) usually don't? Wet racing doesn't take the skill out of racing or driving. It's okay to admit that wet racing is a different art to racing in the dry, you don't have to say it doesn't require skill as a way of excusing Massa

If I were you I'd just revel in Massa's current form instead of saying these things...

[Quiet One 15]

Again , I claim wet weather races take the skill of driving out of the equation.

Nah, just takes Massa out of the equation.

[goferrarigo 0]

Nah, just takes Massa out of the equation.

Massa wasen't that crap in Monza .... I agree Silverstone was a low point but...

[YHR 0]

This is such a ridiculous thing to say, I know it's an opinion but it's a tough one to respect. Yes wet racing involves luck more than others, but driving skill does becomes more important. Almost every great driver F1 ever had was great in wet conditions too, Senna, Stewart, Clark, Fangio, Schumacher and the list goes on. I guess Ayrton Senna was just a really lucky driver, especially Donnington 93. Apply some logic here, if wet races have nothing to do with skill (which implies everything to do with luck), then you'd see a different winner for each wet race, so why is it that some drivers (Hamilton, Alonso, Vettel) usually shine and some drivers (dare I say Massa) usually don't? Wet racing doesn't take the skill out of racing or driving. It's okay to admit that wet racing is a different art to racing in the dry, you don't have to say it doesn't require skill as a way of excusing Massa

If I were you I'd just revel in Massa's current form instead of saying these things...

Bring them to Canada in January and let them drive on a frozen track then. Now that is skill. F1 cars are designed to go fast in dry weather. When it rains it compromises the car. Yes it takes a skill, but to elevate that particulair skill to such a level is flawed in my opinion. I can also show enough examples where the great rain drivers, have stuffed it into a trap or a barrier, and a midpacker has won the race. So maybe calm down and think about it. Alonso first win was on a wet rack where MS crashed out. Wet weather makes an outcome unpredicatable. That in it's self tells the story IMO.

[YHR 0]

Massa wasen't that crap in Monza .... I agree Silverstone was a low point but...

Exactly, Massa won the Race in SPA in the wet

[YHR 0]

I think you are too excited right now. Massa's done a great job today but it's tomorrow when he's to earn the points. About Raikkonen banging wheels with Hamilton he has to find them first, don't you think? It's a bit early to start with if's, would's...

What fun would the forum be if everybody did that???????. I am sure if Massa screws it up tomorrow, there will be a whole bunch of people just scrambling to get to their computers to rub it in my face!!!!!!!! I am just confident that isn't going to be the case . I guess I am a massastatic. The realization of his talents are about to spread over the racing community

[freaky2 1]

Exactly, Massa won the Race in SPA in the wet

That's more of an insult to him... really, if you think about it XD

A deserved 2nd place would have been better XD

[Rainmaster 7]

Bring them to Canada in January and let them drive on a frozen track then. Now that is skill. F1 cars are designed to go fast in dry weather. When it rains it compromises the car. Yes it takes a skill, but to elevate that particulair skill to such a level is flawed in my opinion. I can also show enough examples where the great rain drivers, have stuffed it into a trap or a barrier, and a midpacker has won the race. So maybe calm down and think about it. Alonso first win was on a wet rack where MS crashed out. Wet weather makes an outcome unpredicatable. That in it's self tells the story IMO.

Me calm down? Eventually of course skill becomes irrelevant if you do something like freezing the track! At least now you accept it takes skill to drive in the rain just like it does to drive in the dry, that's all I really wanted to hear from you. Because the notion that driving in the rain removes skill is almost as funny as the concept that dirty air doesn't exist. Yes great wet drivers make mistakes in wet races, they also make mistakes in dry ones, although it is much easier to make a mistake in the wet. That is all.

That's more of an insult to him... really, if you think about it XD

A deserved 2nd place would have been better XD

So true.

[Fed up 0]

Good lap by Felipe, but I'm guessing he is at least 2 laps lighter than Lewis so it could make for a good race. It may just mirror Valencia where Massa was able to pull out a gap sufficient to hold off Lewis in the race - If it stays dry Massa for the win - Safety car senario could make things very interesting.

Vettel continues to impress

[Medilloni 6]

Again , I claim wet weather races take the skill of driving out of the equation. It just becomes a big crap shoot.

Bring them to Canada in January and let them drive on a frozen track then. Now that is skill. F1 cars are designed to go fast in dry weather. When it rains it compromises the car. Yes it takes a skill, but to elevate that particulair skill to such a level is flawed in my opinion. I can also show enough examples where the great rain drivers, have stuffed it into a trap or a barrier, and a midpacker has won the race. So maybe calm down and think about it. Alonso first win was on a wet rack where MS crashed out. Wet weather makes an outcome unpredicatable. That in it's self tells the story IMO.

'Unpredictable' because it's more difficult to drive with less grip, therefore those that excel in the wet are? What? Less skilled? Knitting takes a 'skill', driving any seriously quick car in the wet takes massive skill.

I normally have great respect for your posts YHR, but this is gobsmackingly dumb. So you really think that driving with 800bhp with less grip in the wet than the dry, requires less skill? Even though you think driving on sheet ice takes enormous amounts of skill? There' a flaw somewhere........

Would you say the same about a WRC driver that's got his car on wets for a stage of the Monte Carlo, then it snows but they still produce great drives? On an every day level, why do the police ask us to slow down in the wet? Anything to do with more skill required? It snows, so on the news they say, "only travel if you need to", is it because there are more accidents because drivers don't have the skill levels to deal with it? And you're right, driving a car on a frozen lake takes great skill - if you do it without studs, with studs just makes it massive fun!

I'd agree wet weather makes an outcome less predictable, but only because it's still a great leveller of car performance - hence the (normally) dissadvantaged ones in the crap cars get to show their skills on a more even playing field.

Anyway, I've now calmed down and thought about it and I've come to the conclusion you should get yourself booked into a race car school for a (very wet) day

[Quiet One 15]

Some exclusive footage on Alonso's incident.

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[elgo 1]

The race will probably go under a safe formula, Hammy blocks Kimi at the start, Kubica takes advantage and goes 3rd, then nothing happens for 61 laps and they just drive to the finish line like in Valencia.

I agree with the start,but some laps before the 2nd pit stops the SC will be out (yeah, Kimi does like walls) thus Massa's gap will become zero,and Hamilton will catch him.and rear end him.Then Hamilton will win.

Oh yeah! By the way do you know what time is the MotoGp race on? I don't know if it's better to sleep and wake up to watch it or just watch all the motorbike races and then sleep until the F1 race XD

It's 7.00 am here so 6.00 am for you.I'll sleep and get up to watch it.Btw I won't bother to get up for 125 and 250.I think I'm getting old

What fun would the forum be if everybody did that???????. I am sure if Massa screws it up tomorrow, there will be a whole bunch of people just scrambling to get to their computers to rub it in my face!!!!!!!! I am just confident that isn't going to be the case . I guess I am a massastatic. The realization of his talents are about to spread over the racing community

I guess I'm an alonsorgasmic.

That's more of an insult to him... really, if you think about it XD

A deserved 2nd place would have been better XD

Indeed!!