Button 1 Second Faster Then Webber

[MontoyaFan-HatesJenson 0]

I think race wins are the only important stat thankyou...wins = WDC...if Jenson can't (and wont) win, then he's not going to get near the WDC, which means he's nowhere near as good as he thinks he is.

[Kay 0]

JPM has had better teammates.

Have you looked at the title, or even the first post of the thread?

Ok I realise you must be tired... but don't act so stupid please its laughable

I quoted the first post and I have talked about the thread title so of COURSE I've read it. Although you don't have much of a defence when it comes to the suggestion I put forward.

[Monty 0]

Of course you may. It would be nice though if you actually responded to the more relevant point that all of JPM's teammates have won more often in the same cars whereas JB has gotten closer to doing so than most of his.

What the hell are you on about?

yesterday was an oppurtunity presented in a platter. Look how your driver handled it. You can't get any better chance to win a race. Jenson Button will be another Martin brundle.

[Sato 0]

never said that did I, stop putting words in my mouth!

I didn't know asking a question was putting words in your mouth....

[MontoyaFan-HatesJenson 0]

I never said that did I, stop putting words in my mouth! I said when the time comes where a possible JOM-JB team woulod come about JPM will be old and will be thwarted by JB! Now it would be a close match, but JB would finish on top simply because he is consistant and JPm is too mistake prone and has little talent other than raw speed and aggression!

And JB has no talent...even a little is better than none.

[Taku 0]

what you on about?

meaning you don't usually get bullied about being fat when you get older. people become more tolerant.

[Kay 0]

What the hell are you on about?

yesterday was an oppurtunity presented in a platter. Look how your driver handled it. You can't get any better chance to win a race. Jenson Button will be another Martin brundle.

Ok then... name one of his team mates that has won in the same car as he has had.

To make it simpler...

Ralf in 2000?

Fisi in 2001?

Trulli in 2002?

JVi in 2003?

Sato in 2004&5?

[Jenson_Rules 0]

JPM has had better teammates.

Have you looked at the title, or even the first post of the thread?

What? Ralf Schumacher for 4 seasons? The only good teamate he has had is KR who has thrashed him!

Going by this stat and that RS often outpaced and beat JPM and JB finished his rookie season with matching RS's pace by the end of 2001, and he has improved dramatically! I think JB and JOM would be a close fight, but JB would have the upper hand!

What the hell are you on about?

yesterday was an oppurtunity presented in a platter. Look how your driver handled it. You can't get any better chance to win a race. Jenson Button will be another Martin brundle.

Jensons chances of winning ended when the safety car emerged!

[Sato 0]

Ralf managed to podium a few times, where as button didn't in 00. Fisichella got double the points in 01 i believe.

tbh i don't remember how he went against Trulli in 02? Did he beat him or what?

03, was fairly close wasn't it? JV had alot of car problems from memory though.

04 & 05, well everone thinks Sato is crap, so therefore beating him means very little doesn't it.

[MontoyaFan-HatesJenson 0]

Jenson's chances of winning ended when the lights went out, mate.

[Max Mosley 2]

The BAR is inconsistent!

Indeed. In fact JB has always been a better racer than a qualifier. I think he put paid to the idea that he is the next JT in 2002.

Sounds like you're doing well with your weight loss program Ben - good luck with the rest of it.

[Sato 0]

Jensons chances of winning ended when the safety car emerged!

They ended when he got in the car.

[Kay 0]

Ralf managed to podium a few times, where as button didn't in 00. Fisichella got double the points in 01 i believe.

tbh i don't remember how he went against Trulli in 02? Did he beat him or what?

03, was fairly close wasn't it? JV had alot of car problems from memory though.

04 & 05, well everone thinks Sato is crap, so therefore beating him means very little doesn't it.

So no wins? My point nicely.

They ended when he got in the car.

Well its better ruining your own chances than doing a Sato... getting into his car means someone elses time is up.

[Sato 0]

Just like it took JB forever to podium, when he had cars worthy of doing it already. Just like eh's had cars worthy of winning, and not done so.

My point nicely.

[demonhorse 0]

I think race wins are the only important stat thankyou...wins = WDC...if Jenson can't (and wont) win, then he's not going to get near the WDC, which means he's nowhere near as good as he thinks he is.

Flawed logic... look at all the drivers who have had perfectly good wins but never a WDC,

Coulthard

Ralf Schumacher

Raikkonen

Montoya

Fisichella

Trulli

Irvine

Frentzen

the list goes on...

and if Race wins were the most important stat, Alonso would NOT be world drivers champion (we know this because Senna keeps hammering the point that Kimi has won more races home in spite of the fact Alonso has already beaten Kimi), so obviously you are wrong.

[Null 0]

JB is doing bugger all about proving everyone right about him, and for this, he should be ashamed

[Kay 0]

Just like it took JB forever to podium, when he had cars worthy of doing it already. Just like eh's had cars worthy of winning, and not done so.

My point nicely.

Point 1 - Jenson would have a podium in 2002 if not for mechanical problems

Point 2 - those cars were so worthy none of his team mates won either

Now when are you going to tell me how Button said Webber was a second slower??? I'm very interested to see how you are going to try and throw that one together, I'm always up for a laugh

[Monty 0]

Jensons chances of winning ended when the safety car emerged!

Are you suggesting that he would have won but for the safety car?

[MontoyaFan-HatesJenson 0]

Wins are a driver's bread and butter, I don't care what anyone says.

[Null 0]

I really hope Raikkonen gets the title next year, he's been so close for 2 years and he really does deserve it. Hope the McLaren reliability isn't Sh#t next year like it has been this year. If it weren't for the engine problems, kimi would have won this year, easily

[Sato 0]

Point 1 - Jenson would have a podium in 2002 if not for mechanical problems

Point 2 - those cars were so worthy none of his team mates won either clap3.gif clap3.gif

Now when are you going to tell me how Button said Webber was a second slower??? I'm very interested to see how you are going to try and throw that one together, I'm always up for a laugh eusa_think.gif

Point 1 - Take a look at the thread, the majority (by some amount) are of the opinion Button did poor in the race, and is proving he is not WDC material.

Point 2 - go back and find a thread about the whole thing where the majority once again though he was being an idiot saying he was a race winner and faster then Webber by a second.

[MontoyaFan-HatesJenson 0]

Also someone name me a WDC in the last 5 years who hasn't won a race?

[Kay 0]

Point 1 - Take a look at the thread, the majority (by some amount) are of the opinion Button did poor in the race, and is proving he is not WDC material.

Point 2 - go back and find a thread about the whole thing where the majority once again though he was being an idiot saying he was a race winner and faster then Webber by a second.

I have said he had a poor race and I have said he is an idiot for some of the things he said and so just proves nicely that you don't read what people write just try to reply quickly to bash Jenson

No I want your reasoning behind it, I've said mine and now you can otherwise I take it you can't throw anything together, which would be a shame because I'd like a giggle.

[Sato 0]

Quite clearly my thoughts would be in the original thread for you to see already, along with several others, incluing JR who thought it was disgraceful from memory.

[MontoyaFan-HatesJenson 0]

Also I think Sato grasped the point, people don't notice what a **** JB is because 75% of the UK is up his a##. Basically 5 pages of Brits sycophantically stroking Jenson's ego has proved this point.