Honda Targets Title Challenge

[Kopite Girl 0]

That is true. Not all JPM fans are though. His website is full of complete and utter maniacs.

[bajo39 0]

That is true. Not all JPM fans are though. His website is full of complete and utter maniacs.

Yes and we have such members as Jemstride and, one who I don't think you were around long enough to suffer, Monty.

[Senna 0]

Indeed, the Montoya fans are among the worst though. I'm surprised you left them off your list...

Very true.

[Jem of the Shire 0]

You know Button has never actually beaten anyone other than Sato and a declined Villeneuve (just barely) on a reliability-adjusted basis? He's been very lucky that Jenson but the jury is still out on whether he's WDC material given his questionable commitment and inability to defend positions. Nearly everyone has him outside the top 3. I say nearly because there are a few, young, inexperienced British children who have fallen in love with him (boys too) and swear he is the greatest there is.

Give me 3 examples of Button not defending well. I bet you can't even think of 2. Your ludicrous statements are never backed up with facts. So for once stop talking out your a## and give some evidence. You think Button didnt beat Trulli? You surely arent that dumb, or are you

I'm sure if you told me who your favorite driver is bajo, I could think of plenty of things to say. And actually back them up

[Wez 0]

About that winning record. Whenever you feel like having it broken, just gimme a shout!!! (Hehe!)

Hmmm, This sounds like fun, Has Bajo met his match???

[Jem of the Shire 0]

I just want the guy to give at least some kind of back-up facts/evidence for all the pure horse-manure that he talks. And I want him to tell me his fave driver cos i'm sure i can turn the tables!

[Wez 0]

I just want the guy to give at least some kind of back-up facts/evidence for all the pure horse-manure that he talks. And I want him to tell me his fave driver cos i'm sure i can turn the tables!

JV as far as I know.

[Jem of the Shire 0]

Well where do I start. He's got a lot of nerve constantly taking the p**s out of Button. Its about time he was on the receiving end rather than trying to annoy people all the time

[ksajoe 0]

Honda (BAR then) had a spectacular season in 2004, though in retrospect it was more that Williams, Maclaren & Renault dropped the ball. The BAR did not really threaten the Ferrari and I think for most of the season the F2004 was just cruising around with nothing to challenge it.

So predictably (nobody wanted to listen to my prediction before the '05 season started) it was downhill for the team in 2005. They have a mountain to climb as they are not coming from a position of strength (unlike Maclaren & Renault) and will do extremely well to win a race - podium looks the more realistic goal. They do not have the experience to take advantage of the rule changes - that will be the preserve of Renault, Maclaren, Williams & Ferrari. Toyota will have a far much better season than Honda in 2006.

If they have a very good car - majority of the podiums will swing Barichello's way. JB will out-qualify RB for most of the season but towards the end that advantage will have disappeared. On race day, RB will do a better than JB and he will finish his first season at Honda with more points in the WDC than JB making him the team leader in 2007.

[Jem of the Shire 0]

well I look forward to you being wrong! I think Jenson is 1 of the most consistent drivers in f1 and drives his balls off every race right to the end. Barrichello has weekends where he doesnt seem to give his all, and therefore I strongly believe Jenson will be the top guy. But we'll see!

[ksajoe 0]

JB does not luck in commitment - I will never question that! He might very well just drive RB to retirement and I would cheer him on. But he is not really tested is he? To be fair if he comes out on top with RB in the same team then his status will rise significantly. The JB/RB battles will be exactly like MW/NH last season at williams (MW=JB & NH=RB).

Ruben's doesn't get the credit he deserves, but he has not been driving against a Sato has he! He was driving against arguably the best driver on the grid and he could put him in the shade on one or two weekends.

[Jem of the Shire 0]

True. But jenson was beating trulli 3 years ago, jv 2 years ago, and now I believe he's got much much better since then. Even though he hasnt been tested, you can just see from watching him that he's super-quick. Rubens will beat jenson on more than 1 occasion, and jenson will have excuses, but I think jenson will more often than not put rubens in the shade. Cant wait to find out

[ykickamoocow 0]

I have no idea. Jenson has talent but i dont really know. I keep thinking that throughout the year the Red Bull cars were matching Jensons race pace and we all know that the BAR007 was quicker than the RB1. DC and JB had alot of battles throughout the season and that really shouldnt be the case. Button had the superior equipment but i often found him fighting with cars that wernt as good as his futher back in the feild.

[Jem of the Shire 0]

I dont understand where u get that from. Button was more often that not fighting at the front in a car that didnt deserve it!!!! (as stated in another topic just now!) Exception being nurburgring

[nojvnof1 0]

Too early for predictions, but I don't see Honda fighting for anything but points and a podium or two on a good day. Button should just beat Rubens, but he'll have to up his game as Rubens is about 6 or 7 levels above Sato.

[Kopite Girl 0]

He's in a different class, never mind different levels!!!!

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He's in a different class, never mind different levels!!!!

Yes he's won races and out qualified his "master", Jenson will have to up his "A" game to out shine Rubens............

[Senna 0]

Yes he's won races and out qualified his "master", Jenson will have to up his "A" game to out shine Rubens............

But I think he will. I hope that two (full) seasons with Takuma Sato haven

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But I think he will. I hope that two (full) seasons with Takuma Sato haven

[Senna 0]

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