monza gorilla 1 Report post Posted April 3, 2006 The controversy over Scuderia Toro Rosso Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cristiano84 0 Report post Posted April 3, 2006 V10 is not an advantage..the two Toro Rosso's are simply better cars than MF1s and 4 years old Super Aguris.The STR01 is an evolution of last year Red Bull RB1 wich was already a good car Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Null 0 Report post Posted April 3, 2006 Still though, it is unfair. MF1 and SAF1 have less money than the Italian Red Bull team and thus should develop a V8 engine like the other 2 teams did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
underexposed 0 Report post Posted April 3, 2006 The restricted V10s were spedcifically developed fo Minardi in mind NOT STR. FIA please end this madness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johndifo 0 Report post Posted April 3, 2006 Isn't Minardi one of the many 2008 applicants? STR is Minardi or not? How many Minardis are? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AutoRacer5 0 Report post Posted April 3, 2006 I wonder why Ferrari and others did not take advantage of this. F2004 (06 stuff) with V10 restricted was fast, why not aero mod it and use it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
F1 FANatic 1 Report post Posted April 4, 2006 the FIA would never let Ferrari or one of the big teams use v10's i was in favor of Manardi geting the v10's for 06 but ever since red bull has baought them i find it totaly stupid, either STR gets to use the v10's in a manardi chasis, or they should run the RB1 with the v8, you cant have both, thats like eating your cake and haviong it too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nojvnof1 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2006 Midland and Aguri make a good suggestion. As I've said, the drivers really shouldn't be penalised or anything of the sort. They drive what the team gives them, end of. I doubt any of you would turn down a drive in this car on the basis of it being 'not fair'. No points for WCC is a good idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narain fan 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2006 I wonder why Ferrari and others did not take advantage of this. F2004 (06 stuff) with V10 restricted was fast, why not aero mod it and use it? u conveniently forget that the F2004 was powered by a 950HP engine.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AutoRacer5 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2006 I said with a restricted V10. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ctrl300 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2006 If Super Aguri can fit a V8 Honda to their veteran racer, and Midland can fit a Toyota to their "Lada", then STR must be able to fit a V8 Cosworth to their car. I find it outrageous that they even dare to race with the V10. They should be banned or forced to comply with the rules. They have a lot more funds than SAF1 and Midland, why give them special treatment? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wez 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2006 If Super Aguri can fit a V8 Honda to their veteran racer, and Midland can fit a Toyota to their "Lada", then STR must be able to fit a V8 Cosworth to their car. I find it outrageous that they even dare to race with the V10. They should be banned or forced to comply with the rules. They have a lot more funds than SAF1 and Midland, why give them special treatment? Well said, Most definately unfair! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pumpdoc 2 Report post Posted April 4, 2006 What a bunch of cry-babies................ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monza gorilla 1 Report post Posted April 4, 2006 It's too late for an engine change, but the FIA can restrict the V10 further if they see fit. As I see it, the V10 has tremendous grunt out of slow corners, so would expect them to do particularly well on the twisty tracks such as Monaco and Hungary. It's all about the torque, not only how much but where in the rev range it is available. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ctrl300 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2006 It's too late for an engine change, but the FIA can restrict the V10 further if they see fit. As I see it, the V10 has tremendous grunt out of slow corners, so would expect them to do particularly well on the twisty tracks such as Monaco and Hungary. It's all about the torque, not only how much but where in the rev range it is available. But dont you get my point? If SAF1 can fit a V8 onto their 1957 racer, and Midlada can the same, why could not STR muster the same feat? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pumpdoc 2 Report post Posted April 4, 2006 Of course they(FIA) could have stayed with the V-10's in the first place and saved the teams a bunch of money, oh that's right the V-8's at 1 billion$ is saving them money Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ctrl300 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2006 You must be drunk pump, because you are totally off the topic at hand Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monza gorilla 1 Report post Posted April 4, 2006 Yep. The FIA screwed up, firstly by changing the engine size and configuration for no good reason, and then by allowing the old engine to remain as an option. I don't blame STR at all. There was a big hole in Max's plans and they drove straight through it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ctrl300 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2006 Do you know MG, by any chance, which suplier STR will have next year? I still find the whole V10 thing totally unethical by the STR team, and it totally justifies my unconditional hatred towards them and Scott 'Donkey Lover' Speed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BradSpeedMan 6 Report post Posted April 4, 2006 I still find the whole V10 thing totally unethical by the STR team, and it totally justifies my unconditional hatred towards them and Scott 'Donkey Lover' Speed. i agree with you on both points...the other one being the Scott Speed issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AutoRacer5 0 Report post Posted April 5, 2006 Donkey lover nickname is not justified. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ctrl300 0 Report post Posted April 5, 2006 Donkey lover nickname is not justified. Why is that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AutoRacer5 0 Report post Posted April 5, 2006 You don't know what he does in his private life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ctrl300 0 Report post Posted April 5, 2006 You don't know what he does in his private life. Yes I do. Scott 'Zoophile' Speed makes sweet love to donkeys every chance he gets. That should mean often as his town has more donkeys than people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites