Montoya

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MONTOYA

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MONTOYA

[UrKo 0]

I hope he'll join RedBull.....

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I hope he'll join RedBull.....

Red Bull do not need Montoya. When you look at it DC is just as fast as Montoya but he is also very consistant which is something Montoya is lacking. Look at DC's record at McLaren and then look at Montoya's and you will see that overall DC is closer to his teammates (Hakkinen and R

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Red Bull do not need Montoya. When you look at it DC is just as fast as Montoya but he is also very consistant which is something Montoya is lacking. Look at DC's record at McLaren and then look at Montoya's and you will see that overall DC is closer to his teammates (Hakkinen and R

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Montoya needs to raise some interest in himself quickly, and the only effective way to achieve this is to at the very least give Kimi a run for his money ASAP.

He is under massive pressure to perform at the moment, his couple of strong drives of last year are quickly forgotten in the world of F1.

[Jem of the Shire 0]

Red Bull do not need Montoya. When you look at it DC is just as fast as Montoya but he is also very consistant which is something Montoya is lacking. Look at DC's record at McLaren and then look at Montoya's and you will see that overall DC is closer to his teammates (Hakkinen and R

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Also if you look at DC's record you will see that DC has beaten his championship winning teammate. Has Montoya ever beaten a world champion teammate. The answer is NO.

Am I missing something here, but has Montoya ever driven with championship winning teammate? If you mean any drivers who have won GPs, then you're again wrong. He beated Ralf Schumacher in his second Williams season. He repeated it in 2003 and 2004. So I can't get it where you're idea come's from. You can't mark him before this season ends because first season ends with fitting in the new team. Second year will show, how competitive you are.

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jemstride got first with similar post, I wasted my time with checking facts (A)

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hurmet!

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Me thinks Red Bull the logical exlanation, what with Hamilton coming through for Williams - I can't see BMW making any rash decisions (they can't afford to) and Renault... well I guess we'll just wait and see.

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As long as he doesnt join Red Bull i dont care where he goes.

Replace Red Bull with BMW Sauber and my answer is the same as ykicks

When you look at it DC is just as fast as Montoya but he is also very consistant which is something Montoya is lacking.

I disagree when you say DC is as fast as Montoya. I agree when you say he is more consistent.

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Replace Red Bull with BMW Sauber and my answer is the same as ykicks

I disagree when you say DC is as fast as Montoya. I agree when you say he is more consistent.

Now i'm going thru a stage where i can't but agree with you Nojv, DC not as fast as Montoya. Montoya is as fast or faster as the fastest driver currently on the F1 grid, look how he comprehensively have beaten Kimi on a few tracks last year, Ralf he simply blew away! But then, mistake prone...

I've repeated myself again...

[Jem of the Shire 0]

Basically, JPM did things in 2005 that DC wasnt able to do in 2004 and 2003 when he was kimi's team-mate

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Here's a succinct and quick analysis.

Montoya is quicker than Coulthard, but Coulthard is more consistent than Montoya.

Now i'm going thru a stage where i can't but agree with you Nojv,

it can only be good

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Here's a succinct and quick analysis.

Montoya is quicker than Coulthard, but Coulthard is more consistent than Montoya.

And scores more pts than DC

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yeah, but so he should considering the machinery at his disposal.

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yeah, but so he should considering the machinery at his disposal.

True...but I was thinking when DC was at Mclaren and Monty in Williams!!!

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And scores more pts than DC

You obviosly havent been watch F1 for very long. DC has been a very consistant driver who has managed to score 500 points in his career. He has had a very successful career and if circumstances changed just a little bit then he would also be a world champion.

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You obviosly havent been watch F1 for very long. DC has been a very consistant driver who has managed to score 500 points in his career. He has had a very successful career and if circumstances changed just a little bit then he would also be a world champion.

what circumstance is that then? hakkinen and schumacher breaking their legs? DC was runner-up in 2001 (his best season to date) but still no match for the Schuey/Ferrari combination. The fact remains that Hakkinen was twice WDC in the same car as DC.

JPM did score more points in 02,03 and 04 than DC but then they were driving different cars so no point comparing!

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You obviosly havent been watch F1 for very long. DC has been a very consistant driver who has managed to score 500 points in his career. He has had a very successful career and if circumstances changed just a little bit then he would also be a world champion.

Yeah, there were 2 bloody fast Fins in his way...

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You obviosly havent been watch F1 for very long. DC has been a very consistant driver who has managed to score 500 points in his career. He has had a very successful career and if circumstances changed just a little bit then he would also be a world champion.

I think that biggest problem JP has is the same that DC had! The problem is Ron Dennis....I'm sure that DC would fight for the title if Ron wouldn't forced Mika in front all the time, which from my point of view put DC in difficult position in the team.......same with JPM but instead of Mika there's Kimi ( little prat ).

So in general.....DC had its chance and didn't do it and looks like that JP will also fail.

However....JP proved several times that he can win races and also win title ( remember 03 season )....it was FIA that destroyed JP chances of trying to stay in contest in US GP!

And we have seen how many time JP has beat Kimi!!!

So until Ron does not change his attitude towards his 2nd driver(s) no1 will be able to come close to Kimi, etc...

I think you know what I have tried to say

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Sauber want Kubica,Heidfeld has a three year contract, Jv's contract expries at the end of 2006.Red Bull wants Montoya..but Horner has also praised Klien so far,plus they are keen on helping their young hopefuls make an impact in F.1...while DC contract also expires at the end of 2006..what does it means? DC and JV are probably having their last season on the grid as Michael Schumacher is...F.1 needs refreshment,it's sad to see the old guys go but tht's good for the future of the sport

I think that biggest problem JP has is the same that DC had! The problem is Ron Dennis....I'm sure that DC would fight for the title if Ron wouldn't forced Mika in front all the time, which from my point of view put DC in difficult position in the team.......same with JPM but instead of Mika there's Kimi ( little prat ).

So in general.....DC had its chance and didn't do it and looks like that JP will also fail.

However....JP proved several times that he can win races and also win title ( remember 03 season )....it was FIA that destroyed JP chances of trying to stay in contest in US GP!

And we have seen how many time JP has beat Kimi!!!

So until Ron does not change his attitude towards his 2nd driver(s) no1 will be able to come close to Kimi, etc...

I think you know what I have tried to say

DC has always been slower than Mika and that's all and the same is for JPM with Kimi...he might be as quick as Kimi at times but he is TOO UNCONSISTENT..he will never be WDC.It's true that FIA helped Ferrari and Bridgestone in the last races of 2003,but Montoya's Indianapolis ace was terrible..he simply cracked under pressure while Kimi with a slower car didn't

[BradSpeedMan 6]

I think that biggest problem JP has is the same that DC had! The problem is Ron Dennis....I'm sure that DC would fight for the title if Ron wouldn't forced Mika in front all the time, which from my point of view put DC in difficult position in the team.......same with JPM but instead of Mika there's Kimi ( little prat ).

So in general.....DC had its chance and didn't do it and looks like that JP will also fail.

However....JP proved several times that he can win races and also win title ( remember 03 season )....it was FIA that destroyed JP chances of trying to stay in contest in US GP!

And we have seen how many time JP has beat Kimi!!!

So until Ron does not change his attitude towards his 2nd driver(s) no1 will be able to come close to Kimi, etc...

I think you know what I have tried to say

I disagree Urko, the "takeover" from the Melbourne race, when DC gave away the race to Hakkinen at the last turn, created BIG controversy. Since then Mclaren has learned it's lesson and Nr 1 driver from there onwards did'nt apply at all. Fact is, after Hakkinen's accident, the bond between Ron Dennis and Hakkinen developed into a father son relationship. It is clearly not so with Raikkonen, and clearly was'nt when he joined Mclaren. DC had all the time to prove his world champion material, but as in the case with Fisi, clearly is'nt!

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I disagree Urko, the "takeover" from the Melbourne race, when DC gave away the race to Hakkinen at the last turn, created BIG controversy. Since then Mclaren has learned it's lesson and Nr 1 driver from there onwards did'nt apply at all. Fact is, after Hakkinen's accident, the bond between Ron Dennis and Hakkinen developed into a father son relationship. It is clearly not so with Raikkonen, and clearly was'nt when he joined Mclaren. DC had all the time to prove his world champion material, but as in the case with Fisi, clearly is'nt!

I think that in 2001 and 2002 DC really stepped up a gear and drove like someone who was capable of fighting for the championship - unfortunately the Ferrari was too strong.

I should include 2000 as well when DC was on pretty much same level as Mika and wasnt beaten by much in the end. Sadly though 2003 and 2004 were very different

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I disagree Urko, the "takeover" from the Melbourne race, when DC gave away the race to Hakkinen at the last turn, created BIG controversy. Since then Mclaren has learned it's lesson and Nr 1 driver from there onwards did'nt apply at all. Fact is, after Hakkinen's accident, the bond between Ron Dennis and Hakkinen developed into a father son relationship. It is clearly not so with Raikkonen, and clearly was'nt when he joined Mclaren. DC had all the time to prove his world champion material, but as in the case with Fisi, clearly is'nt!

The sentence in bold is what I was trying to say in my previous post.

Ron has developed father & son relationship with Mika, before Mika it was same with Senna and it could also happened with Kimi.

Remember....every race that Kimi won ( 05 season ) you could see big smile on Rons face....wasn't the same with JP.

I'm no psychologist , but I'm sure that this kind of relationship between Team owner & driver is not good for other driver ( in this case JP).

So bad perforemances from JP could be result of new beginning of father & son relationship betweeen Ron & Kimi..