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Yep, 'fraid so. It's a tricky time; i feel physically 18, i look like im 50 and i act like im 12. I guess i should put the three together and take a mean average.

using these 3 numbers your average comes out to be 80/3 which is equal to 26.66666667.

That means you are not in their age group so have a blast.

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using these 3 numbers your average comes out to be 80/3 which is equal to 26.66666667.

That means you are not in their age group so have a blast.

We can drop the remainder and call drib 26. That would put him near Ben's age group. Hmmmmm........

Drib, it looks like you need to go get drunk, have a fag, then grab the nearest guy and shag in the restroom.

Cheers! :cheers:

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We can drop the remainder and call drib 26. That would put him near Ben's age group. Hmmmmm........

Drib, it looks like you need to go get drunk, have a fag, then grab the nearest guy and shag in the restroom.

Cheers! :cheers:

i think our drib might prefer the gal rather. :D

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i think our drib might prefer the gal rather. :D

But how will he fit in with Ben's demographic if he doesn't shag at least one guy? (kidding, Ben ;) )

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But how will he fit in with Ben's demographic if he doesn't shag at least one guy? (kidding, Ben ;) )

Some of the swamp rats i have pulled in my youth constitute sleeping with men. Unfortunately all the equations in the world won't escape the fact that i'm 36. Oh well, you're only as old as the woman you feel

(Mrs dribbler is 32).

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back to the topic.

here ae DC's views on Hamilton:-

Red Bull Racing ace David Coulthard believes McLaren has put British sensation Lewis Hamilton's career at risk by giving him his dream race drive alongside world champion Fernando Alonso before he is ready.

Coulthard, a self-confessed Hamilton fan, said in his column in Sunday's News of the World, that it is too soon in the 21-year-old's career to be exposed to the inevitable public scrutiny that goes with racing for a top team in the same car as the world's best driver.

Instead, according to the former McLaren race-winner, it would have been better for the team to allow F1's first black driver to get some miles under his belt with a year of testing.

"McLaren have given him his break way too soon," said DC, who is now F1's oldest driver following the retirement of Michael Schumacher.

"Ron Dennis should have given Lewis a year as a test driver before promoting him to the race seat.

"It's great for Lewis to be the first black driver in Formula 1," he added.

"I've known him since he was a kid in karting, and I have absolutely no doubt he has the right attitude and work ethic to be successful in Formula 1.

"But Lewis would have been better off with a year's testing."

The sport's history is littered with stories of drivers whose careers suffered because they were exposed too soon to have a chance to make their mark.

Indeed Coulthard's own promising Red Bull team-mate Christian Klien was dropped from the race squad before the Japanese GP after just two and a half seasons in the top flight.

DC blamed the fact that the Austrian, who was the same age as Hamilton when he joined Jaguar in 2004, was forced to learn his trade under the gaze of the F1 paddock jury, and his results suffered for it.

"Lewis is still only 21 and has plenty of racing years ahead of him," said Coulthard.

"He could face a very tough time with Fernando Alonso as his team-mate.

"Alonso may be new to McLaren, but he is a double-world champion.

"The first person you are compared to is your team-mate and if Lewis struggles alongside Alonso it could destroy his confidence.

"There is no doubting his [Lewis's] potential, but he needs time to develop

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Why would anyone in their right mind support a driver purely on nationality? What is that saying about you and your ability to be open minded?

so when the world cup and olympics come around which team and nation do you support? surely not your national team then.

i personally love seeing my countrymen do well in any sport and always support them. it doesn't mean they are my favourite, nor that i have a poor ability to be open minded..

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back to the topic.

here ae DC's views on Hamilton:-

Red Bull Racing ace David Coulthard believes McLaren has put British sensation Lewis Hamilton's career at risk by giving him his dream race drive alongside world champion Fernando Alonso before he is ready.

Coulthard, a self-confessed Hamilton fan, said in his column in Sunday's News of the World, that it is too soon in the 21-year-old's career to be exposed to the inevitable public scrutiny that goes with racing for a top team in the same car as the world's best driver.

Instead, according to the former McLaren race-winner, it would have been better for the team to allow F1's first black driver to get some miles under his belt with a year of testing.

"McLaren have given him his break way too soon," said DC, who is now F1's oldest driver following the retirement of Michael Schumacher.

"Ron Dennis should have given Lewis a year as a test driver before promoting him to the race seat.

"It's great for Lewis to be the first black driver in Formula 1," he added.

"I've known him since he was a kid in karting, and I have absolutely no doubt he has the right attitude and work ethic to be successful in Formula 1.

"But Lewis would have been better off with a year's testing."

The sport's history is littered with stories of drivers whose careers suffered because they were exposed too soon to have a chance to make their mark.

Indeed Coulthard's own promising Red Bull team-mate Christian Klien was dropped from the race squad before the Japanese GP after just two and a half seasons in the top flight.

DC blamed the fact that the Austrian, who was the same age as Hamilton when he joined Jaguar in 2004, was forced to learn his trade under the gaze of the F1 paddock jury, and his results suffered for it.

"Lewis is still only 21 and has plenty of racing years ahead of him," said Coulthard.

"He could face a very tough time with Fernando Alonso as his team-mate.

"Alonso may be new to McLaren, but he is a double-world champion.

"The first person you are compared to is your team-mate and if Lewis struggles alongside Alonso it could destroy his confidence.

"There is no doubting his [Lewis's] potential, but he needs time to develop

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Dennis downplays Lewis's skin colour

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McLaren team boss Ron Dennis has played down the fact that Lewis Hamilton will be the first black driver to race in Formula One when makes his debut at the Australian GP next season.

Hamilton, who was signed by McLaren last week as Fernando Alonso's 2007 team-mate, will be the first black driver ever to compete in the sport.

However, according to Dennis that is not why McLaren signed him. Rather they chose Lewis because of his talent and the fact that he has been nutured by McLaren for almost a decade.

"To be honest it just doesn't register and it never has," Dennis said when asked about the significance of the colour of Hamilton's skin in Formula One.

"We are very aware of the ability for Lewis' colour to be used as a headline or certainly contained in the first sentence of any of the stories that come out of today, and many of the stories that will be published in the future.

"He has been in the McLaren-Mercedes family for nine years, we don't hide from the fact that he is from a mixed race background, but it doesn't matter.

"And we certainly want to take a path in which it is not played to or played against: he is what he is, from our perspective, there is not even the angle of 'does this make him more determined?'

"The Tiger Woods label, it does make you smile and you could argue it is a compliment, but it is not relevant to our objective, he is in our team because he has earned the opportunity.

"The fact that he is in the car is because he has earned it and not because there is any negative or positive coming out of his colour, he is just one of us, he has been one of us for nine years, he has earned it and he deserves the opportunity."

well well well, they've already started MG.....

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I've got 2 words for Couthard.... UP YOURS you jealous b#####d! I'm sure the veteran Mika will guide our new driver just fine, if the need arises...

Coulthard is perfectly correct that drivers who enter F1 too yound can seriously damage their careers. We have seen it happen before and Coulthard is just saying that driving net too Alonso could seriously damage Hamilton's confidence which would effect his results in a negative way. I also believe that 21 is abit to young for a driver too enter F1 and i believe Ron is gambling with Hamilton's career by putting him in the spotlight so early.

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Alonso is a double WDC at the age of 25, so that is not necessarily true.

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Alonso is a double WDC at the age of 25, so that is not necessarily true.

Yes but Alonso started in a Minardi with a equally inexperianced teammate which means nobody expected anything from him. Hamilton is in a highly successful formula 1 team which demands success as well as a extremely fast and competitive teammate.

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Maybe so, but look at the enormous amounts of pressure he had to absorb in some of his races, and during 2006 as a whole

And then all you gotta do is look at your own hero... the first task of his career was to step into Senna's car after he had died. True, hes never won a WDC (and no offence but i doubt he ever will either) but by and large he has had a reasonably successful career

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Maybe so, but look at the enormous amounts of pressure he had to absorb in some of his races, and during 2006 as a whole

And then all you gotta do is look at your own hero... the first task of his career was to step into Senna's car after he had died. True, hes never won a WDC (and no offence but i doubt he ever will either) but by and large he has had a reasonably successful career

But he didn't have to compete with Senna, which is the point ykick is making.

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Coulthard is perfectly correct that drivers who enter F1 too yound can seriously damage their careers. We have seen it happen before and Coulthard is just saying that driving net too Alonso could seriously damage Hamilton's confidence which would effect his results in a negative way. I also believe that 21 is abit to young for a driver too enter F1 and i believe Ron is gambling with Hamilton's career by putting him in the spotlight so early.

dominated the 2005 F3 Euro series, 15 out of 20 races.....

2006 GP2 champ.....

He's got full support of the team behind him for years now, why waste a year testing, he's as ready as they come and together with Kubicza, must be the brightest new star on the horizon....

Coulthard should mind his own business and concentrate on retiring next year.... :naughty:

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But he didn't have to compete with Senna, which is the point ykick is making.

I think you may just find that stepping into the car of a legend like him who has just died will result in considerably more pressure than racing against him in another team as a relative unknown, or even in the same team.

If lewis expects to be winning bucketloads of races and winning the championship in his first ever season then he deservs to get screwed for setting his sites too high. At the end of the day he has his whole career ahead of him, and i am sure this first season is just an initialisation season to get him used to the car, and the whole aura of racing in F1

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I think you may just find that stepping into the car of a legend like him who has just died will result in considerably more pressure than racing against him in another team as a relative unknown, or even in the same team.

Why would there be any more pressure? Nobody was expecting him to replace Senna and because Senna wasn't in the team then there are no comparisons that can be drawn. However, for Hamilton the comparison can be drawn and will be what he is measured against.

For the record, I don;t agree with DC - if you're good enough then you're old enough and ready. The question will be if he is good enough......

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How can hamilton be compared against a double world champion that is an established force in F1. I just dont see it being as big a problem for him as some people think

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How can hamilton be compared against a double world champion that is an established force in F1. I just dont see it being as big a problem for him as some people think

I think the original point is/was, Shane, that you can't compare them and F1 afficianados won't. However, the British press........

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Who cares what the british press say. Jenson doesn't listen to them, and i am sure LH will not either. Most pro sportsmen have learnt to de-sensitise themselves to the press

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I think the original point is/was, Shane, that you can't compare them and F1 afficianados won't. However, the British press........

The British press are the worst in the world to their sportsmen and if the British press start saying negative things about Hamilton it will effect his driving. Older drivers learn to ignore the press but most younger drivers get very upset if the press says negatve things about their performances.

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Who cares what the british press say. Jenson doesn't listen to them, and i am sure LH will not either. Most pro sportsmen have learnt to de-sensitise themselves to the press

Well, despite what British sportsmen say, they do get affected by the press, it's hard not to. Jenson admitted after his win that it was starting to get to him. It's a sad fact of life in this country. Hamilton may or may not be able to deal with it - we're going to find out.

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Well, despite what British sportsmen say, they do get affected by the press, it's hard not to. Jenson admitted after his win that it was starting to get to him. It's a sad fact of life in this country. Hamilton may or may not be able to deal with it - we're going to find out.

The Australian press is nearly as bad. They wont stutup about our Rugby teams bad performances and when a athlete has a bad performance they get treated like they are dirt.

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i agree with DC on this one(never thought i would say that line). IMO Hamilton is too early to join F1 and if he did he should have started with spykar or something or a year of testing. not in a big car staright away without any expieence in the sport.

As DC said, In the rookie year you allways compare him to his teammate(as they have the same cars etc) so thus hamilton has it bad as he will be compared to alonso.

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