Max Mosley 2 Report post Posted February 12, 2007 ok Niall, pabloh & murray i have now started a new thread on this topic as agreed in the Good Monday agreement - get shaving!!! *roars in deep, slow, loud, Ian Paisley Irish accent* "We will not surrender! We will not negotiate with the Devil!" (I might check out your thread though....) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funkejay 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2007 Jay I wish you would show me examples of my censorship........................ Bruce, would you not describe banning someone from the site a form of censorship? But don't take my position on this issue personally. I am against censorship in any form, at any time, for any reason. So I am not commenting on the appropriateness of your judgement compared to anyone elses. I take the position that it is never justified, and would never agree with any decision to ban anyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Autumnpuma 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2007 I appreciate the fact that you did, but the presence or absence of those little insults has little to do with the larger issue. I'll keep it out of other threads apart from those two, unless there is something that needs pointing out. If you find it tedious, ignore the threads, you know which ones to ignore.Really, that goes for everyone who finds it tedious/ boring/ irritating, I keep it out of other threads as far as I can, and you ignore these. Fair deal? And perhaps if people don't want this talk in other threads, you would consider extending the same courtesy to these two, so that someone who wants to get a perspective doesn't have to wade through posts that are completely off topic? An excellent post and an attitude I respect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Max Mosley 2 Report post Posted February 12, 2007 Yes, I always respect Cav. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Autumnpuma 0 Report post Posted February 12, 2007 [quote name='Murray Walker' post='172593' date='Feb 12 2007, 12:59 PM']Yes, I always respect Cav.[/quote] He may be surprised to read this, but I do too. I don't agree with him always, but the respect is there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Max Mosley 2 Report post Posted February 12, 2007 I imagine not so long ago he was surprised to hear I do too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quiet One 15 Report post Posted February 12, 2007 He may be surprised to read this, but I do too. I don't agree with him always, but the respect is there. My exact feelings, once again, so I leave for the Uncle Fester's competition where I might have a chance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pumpdoc 2 Report post Posted February 13, 2007 Bruce, would you not describe banning someone from the site a form of censorship? But don't take my position on this issue personally. I am against censorship in any form, at any time, for any reason. So I am not commenting on the appropriateness of your judgement compared to anyone elses. I take the position that it is never justified, and would never agree with any decision to ban anyone. You are right Jay it is censorship in a form, but counselar I've let the offending parties back on, except for one and I'm so close to giving him an invite back just so he can continue his tiraides but I don't want my inbox full of all of the whinging and bitching. You condemed me for my India train joke, said it was bad form, well which way do you want it? You want t5o censor my jokes? I didn't make referance to people dying, no just the fact that Indias trains are an overloaded wreck waiting to happen as often the do............. Oh by the way it would be censorship if topics were deleted, they may be closed but they are out there for all to see, your argument is weak at best.................... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funkejay 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2007 You are right Jay it is censorship in a form, but counselar I've let the offending parties back on, except for one and I'm so close to giving him an invite back just so he can continue his tiraides but I don't want my inbox full of all of the whinging and bitching.You condemed me for my India train joke, said it was bad form, well which way do you want it? You want t5o censor my jokes? I didn't make referance to people dying, no just the fact that Indias trains are an overloaded wreck waiting to happen as often the do............. Oh by the way it would be censorship if topics were deleted, they may be closed but they are out there for all to see, your argument is weak at best.................... Yep - credit where it's due Bruce. You have revoked the ban, and that's a good thing. And I say invite the Norwegian back too!!! I didn't condemn you for your train joke, I only pointed out it was bad form (and I thought it was). That is not censorship, but merely lay pressure to 'clean up' speech as it were. That is an acceptable form of pressure to elevate dialogue, because there is no sanction with which to enforce it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cavallino 2 Report post Posted February 15, 2007 You are right Jay it is censorship in a form, but counselar I've let the offending parties back on I'd dearly love to know what I have done that warrants a permanent ban, since you've told me in the past that I was lucky to not be banned permanently, and now you have the audacity to suggest taht you did me a favour by letting me back on? but I don't want my inbox full of all of the whinging and bitching.So you don't want to do your job?You condemed me for my India train joke, said it was bad form, well which way do you want it? You want t5o censor my jokes? Some maturity goes a long way, that was a low shot. And you have that persistent "my country is greater than yours so I am greater than you" attitude. You have persistently taken an attitude of superiority, as if you are somehow on higher plane compared to other members. You will use anything to assert that superiority, be it your age or the fact that you come frmo a richer country. Your position is a position of trust, not of power. You are a member like any other, chosen by the members to make sure that that the forum functions with minimal interference. Oh by the way it would be censorship if topics were deleted, they may be closed but they are out there for all to see, your argument is weak at best.................... Are you kidding? This just shows the extent to which you are deluded. You close a topic, refuse to allow a new topic to be created in lieu, ban a member for trying to discuss the issue, and you have the insolence to suggest that it is not censorship? How is silencing a person from discussing a topic anything but censorship? And don't try to push your decisions on others, the above post is ample proof if any was needed that the buck stops with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bambino 0 Report post Posted February 15, 2007 Waaaaaaaaaa! (plop, squelch) waaaaaaaaaaa! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goferrarigo 0 Report post Posted February 15, 2007 Yep - credit where it's due Bruce. You have revoked the ban, and that's a good thing. And I say invite the Norwegian back too!!! Hold on there. you can agree with bruce all you like but don't let the norwegian back... the place has become a bit better without him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dribbler 6 Report post Posted February 15, 2007 Hold on there. you can agree with bruce all you like but don't let the norwegian back... the place has become a bit better without him Yeah but now we have this pooing and crying fool. (I'm talking about Bambino in case there was confusion). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goferrarigo 0 Report post Posted February 15, 2007 Yeah but now we have this pooing and crying fool. (I'm talking about Bambino in case there was confusion). Exactly thus i did not say this place has become MUCH better as we got a replacement Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pumpdoc 2 Report post Posted February 16, 2007 I'd dearly love to know what I have done that warrants a permanent ban, since you've told me in the past that I was lucky to not be banned permanently, and now you have the audacity to suggest taht you did me a favour by letting me back on? So you don't want to do your job? Some maturity goes a long way, that was a low shot. And you have that persistent "my country is greater than yours so I am greater than you" attitude. You have persistently taken an attitude of superiority, as if you are somehow on higher plane compared to other members. You will use anything to assert that superiority, be it your age or the fact that you come frmo a richer country. Your position is a position of trust, not of power. You are a member like any other, chosen by the members to make sure that that the forum functions with minimal interference. Are you kidding? This just shows the extent to which you are deluded. You close a topic, refuse to allow a new topic to be created in lieu, ban a member for trying to discuss the issue, and you have the insolence to suggest that it is not censorship? How is silencing a person from discussing a topic anything but censorship? And don't try to push your decisions on others, the above post is ample proof if any was needed that the buck stops with you. I give up, you will never be happy.............. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jean Todt 4 Report post Posted February 16, 2007 Waaaaaaaaaa! (plop, squelch) waaaaaaaaaaa! now who is going to clean up this mess? can the mods help this guy out with daipers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cavallino 2 Report post Posted February 17, 2007 I give up, you will never be happy.............. Eh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites