Jean-Pierre 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2012 It is rather simple: if they give him a good car and a good team, he will probably fight for the title again next year. He will beat. Nico on a regular basis and he will get along with the big boss. He is the second best driver right now and he is not stupid; if he goes at Mercedes it is because they plan to win next year. And with the guy they have at the helm, they might very well do just that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted October 20, 2012 if he goes at Mercedes JP - Do try and keep up. I know you're only just learning how to read - but please try and at least keep your posts in the same month as the rest of us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BradSpeedMan 6 Report post Posted October 20, 2012 JP - Do try and keep up. I know you're only just learning how to read - but please try and at least keep your posts in the same month as the rest of us. LOL! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Massa 0 Report post Posted October 20, 2012 It is rather simple: if they give him a good car and a good team, he will probably fight for the title again next year. He will beat. Nico on a regular basis and he will get along with the big boss. He is the second best driver right now and he is not stupid; if he goes at Mercedes it is because they plan to win next year. And with the guy they have at the helm, they might very well do just that. I tend to agree. Hamilton can say that he doesn't expect to win in 2013, but he's just downplaying things. They have everything in place to win in terms of resources. It's all execution now. Mercedes did not have a bad car at the beginning of the year by any means; they just didn't develop it as quickly as others did and started falling behind. There's no reason they can't be competitive in 2013; I wonder if they never resolved 2012's issues because they were already looking ahead, and if that's the case, it's interesting, because Red Bull, Ferrari, and McLaren had to stay focused on 2012 pretty late into the game with things being close. I'll say Hamilton wins at least one Grand Prix in 2013. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jean-Pierre 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2012 JP - Do try and keep up. I know you're only just learning how to read - but please try and at least keep your posts in the same month as the rest of us. English is not my first language and I'm doing my best. However, I thought my sentence was ok. Do make an effort like most of us to understand what people say in their posts instead of making doubtful comments. Anyways I suggest you talk for yourself instead of implying you talk for "the rest of us". I know, it takes I little guts... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jean-Pierre 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2012 LOL! I guess you are the "us" in the phrase "rest of us" your good friend used. Are you guys a couple? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BradSpeedMan 6 Report post Posted October 21, 2012 I guess you are the "us" in the phrase "rest of us" your good friend used. Are you guys a couple? why, u jealous I realise it's an honest mistake but Hamilton signing a contract few weeks ago and then you saying if he goes just sounds funny JP, it's like u skipped every possible news of his signed deal with Mercedes... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jean-Pierre 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2012 All right, but can't one say something like: If I go there, it is because I like their beer There is an "if" but it introduces an explanation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quiet One 15 Report post Posted October 21, 2012 Actually, the phrase as you wrote it makes perfect sense in Spanish in the sense that "Lewis is going to Merc not because of A but because of B". We would also (in Spanish) say: "If he goes to Merc, it is not because of A but because of B". I have no idea why we use the conditional in that case, but we use it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Villathomas 0 Report post Posted October 21, 2012 I think Hamilton will actually do quite well next year, he'll pick up two or three wins and be on the edge of the championship battle but not a close contender. Its McLaren who I think are in trouble next year. Button can't compete with Vettel/Alonso etc when the car doesn't suit him and I think Perez lacks the consistency to be a challenger. Mclaren could find themselves behind Ferrari, Lotus and Mercedes next year unless they produce a great car and cut the stupid errors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AleHop 0 Report post Posted October 22, 2012 It is rather simple: if they give him a good car and a good team, he will probably fight for the title again next year. He will beat. Nico on a regular basis and he will get along with the big boss. He is the second best driver right now and he is not stupid; if he goes at Mercedes it is because they plan to win next year. And with the guy they have at the helm, they might very well do just that. I fully agree with you. The level of the car is what matters here. Of course they'll expect a lot of hard work from him in the team but it won't produce much if he doesn't get the right tools. If he gets a winner car he'll deliver, if he gets a WCC winner car he'll grab the WDC. That's why Mercedes is hiring him, that's what a super talented F1 driver is for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AleHop 0 Report post Posted October 22, 2012 We would also (in Spanish) say: "If he goes to Merc, it is not because of A but because of B". I have no idea why we use the conditional in that case, but we use it. You do that in Argentina? Yes we do. And we know it because we know our grammar unlike others. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Massa 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2012 I think Hamilton will actually do quite well next year, he'll pick up two or three wins and be on the edge of the championship battle but not a close contender. Its McLaren who I think are in trouble next year. Button can't compete with Vettel/Alonso etc when the car doesn't suit him and I think Perez lacks the consistency to be a challenger. Mclaren could find themselves behind Ferrari, Lotus and Mercedes next year unless they produce a great car and cut the stupid errors. Welcome to the forum. Pérez definitely has room to grow, and without Hamilton, it's possible the McLaren may suit Button better (there are times when it seems to, and times when it seems to suit Hamilton, and times when it seems to suit no one), so I wouldn't write Button out of it yet. I really hope Mercedes deliver a good car. The more teams that can compete, the better, and with the regulations being so narrow, competition is needed to keep it interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Villathomas 0 Report post Posted October 23, 2012 Welcome to the forum. Pérez definitely has room to grow, and without Hamilton, it's possible the McLaren may suit Button better (there are times when it seems to, and times when it seems to suit Hamilton, and times when it seems to suit no one), so I wouldn't write Button out of it yet. I really hope Mercedes deliver a good car. The more teams that can compete, the better, and with the regulations being so narrow, competition is needed to keep it interesting. Thank you I do hope that Jenson can compete for the title next year, as I am a Jenson fan and your right, McLaren can start building cars that suit a smoother driving style like Jenson's, so perhaps he will be competitive more often. With a bit of luck Mercedes and Lotus will produce race winning cars next year, so that Nico, Lewis and Kimi can all have a serious crack at the championship. As a replacement for Lewis, I do wonder why McLaren opted for Perez over Hulkenburg? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jean-Pierre 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2012 Since it usualy takes half a season for a good driver to get use to a new car, Hamilton will only do really well after the first half of the season next year IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BradSpeedMan 6 Report post Posted November 27, 2012 Since it usualy takes half a season for a good driver to get use to a new car, Hamilton will only do really well after the first half of the season next year IMO. I think if the car is fast he will be fast in no time JP, look how easy it was for Kimi when the car was competitive, it made his 2 year comeback impressive. So it depends on the car really... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jean-Pierre 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2012 I think if the car is fast he will be fast in no time JP, look how easy it was for Kimi when the car was competitive, it made his 2 year comeback impressive. So it depends on the car really... You might b right, but if I remember correctly it is only since mid season that KR started to clearly dominate Grosjean. Shumacher took half a year before he started to show something. Remember Villeneuve at BMW, he started to regularly beat Nick Heidfeld only from mid season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freaky2 1 Report post Posted November 30, 2012 Well, Kimi's form has varied quite a bit depending on the car's adaptation to the circuit, Grosjean's level of stupidity in a given weekend, team strategy and, of course his general improvement as time goes by. It's quite hard to say which factors have influenced him most (especially if you want to compare with his teammate). I think Lotus's strategy sucked in the first races (because I clearly remember stages of mild hate XD) and also Grosjean qualified better than Kimi quite often. But qualifying doesn't make a race and Kimi's races have been impressive from early on. The thing is that his qualifying got better towards the end (point for you) and Hamilton had his continuous strokes of bad luck which elevated Kimi to third in the championship and he never came down. What I mean is that you can apply a similar judgement to Hammy's year (and also factor in Pirelli, Nico, his boss, his girlfriend and whatever you want). I'm sure that Hammy can impress from early on, even if he can't challenge for the big points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BradSpeedMan 6 Report post Posted November 30, 2012 Well, Kimi's form has varied quite a bit depending on the car's adaptation to the circuit, Grosjean's level of stupidity in a given weekend, team strategy and, of course his general improvement as time goes by. It's quite hard to say which factors have influenced him most (especially if you want to compare with his teammate). I think Lotus's strategy sucked in the first races (because I clearly remember stages of mild hate XD) and also Grosjean qualified better than Kimi quite often. But qualifying doesn't make a race and Kimi's races have been impressive from early on. The thing is that his qualifying got better towards the end (point for you) and Hamilton had his continuous strokes of bad luck which elevated Kimi to third in the championship and he never came down. What I mean is that you can apply a similar judgement to Hammy's year (and also factor in Pirelli, Nico, his boss, his girlfriend and whatever you want). I'm sure that Hammy can impress from early on, even if he can't challenge for the big points. I agree with every word, lovely post Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jean-Pierre 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2012 Well, I'll put my money on this: Nico will beat him in the majority of the quali and races during the first half of the season, but will be beaten by him in the majority of the second half races. Any vinyl LP collector out there? I'm willin to bet a vinyl of your choice (provided I have it in my collection and you do in yours) on this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dribbler 6 Report post Posted December 2, 2012 Well, I'll put my money on this: Nico will beat him in the majority of the quali and races during the first half of the season, but will be beaten by him in the majority of the second half races. Any vinyl LP collector out there? I'm willin to bet a vinyl of your choice (provided I have it in my collection and you do in yours) on this. My unmarked and much prized 'The Essential Jean-Michele Jarre' says Lewis will beat Nico from the start. My Kajagoogoo collection says Vettel won't win another title. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AleHop 0 Report post Posted December 3, 2012 My unmarked and much prized 'The Essential Jean-Michele Jarre' says Lewis will beat Nico from the start. My Kajagoogoo collection says Vettel won't win another title. Any good news about Alonso? Hamilton will clearly beat Rosberg in the Qly and a bit less comfortably in the race. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dribbler 6 Report post Posted December 3, 2012 Any good news about Alonso? I think so; I'll give Jean Pierre my Julio Iglesias version of 'Begin the Beguine' when Alonso beats Massa next year. I have to get rid of it somehow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grabthaw the Hammerslayer 4 Report post Posted December 4, 2012 I think so; I'll give Jean Pierre my Julio Iglesias version of 'Begin the Beguine' when Alonso beats Massa next year. I have to get rid of it somehow. We all know you have ripped it to an MP3 first I always thought you were more the sort to have a copy of Terry Wogan singing "Floral Dance"... Well, that or "up, up and away in my ba-yoot-ful ballll-ooon..." Edit: p.s. Before going any further it is with great shame I just discovered I had an MP3 of The Nolans singing: "I'm in the mood for dancing" on my computer. In my defence, it was on a compilation album I had ripped <cough> so let's call it quits, eh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jean-Pierre 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2012 My unmarked and much prized 'The Essential Jean-Michele Jarre' says Lewis will beat Nico from the start. My Kajagoogoo collection says Vettel won't win another title. Wow! this is pretty definitive talk. "From the start" you mean he will beat him every race and quali from the start? I like Jean_Michel Jarre and will gladly take your LP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
