Kay 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2006 Being in Holland again reminded me, that the Dutch are a pretty good nation, got a good balance in some areas. If only the Muslim debate could somehow be resolved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shane2 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2006 Our motorways have a limit of 70, the A roads have a limit of 60.Have you passed your driving theory test yet? Something we should be proud of! No at the moment i am unemployed and cannot afford to drive Being in Holland again reminded me, that the Dutch are a pretty good nation, got a good balance in some areas. If only the Muslim debate could somehow be resolved. I have been to Holland several times, and i really like it, it is such a laid back country, and so much nicer and more tranquil than here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2006 I have been to Holland several times, and i really like it, it is such a laid back country, and so much nicer and more tranquil than here. Unfortunately not as much as it used to be, although when politicans get shot and threats are made then it is hard to be so liberal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shane2 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2006 Yeah, but one thing is for sure its a lot more laid back than the UK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2006 Yeah, but one thing is for sure its a lot more laid back than the UK But has a lot more tensions because of it than the UK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shane2 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2006 Hmm in political terms, i would guess so yes, but the fallout over the Iraq war has hardly done Blair any favours Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2006 Hmm in political terms, i would guess so yes, but the fallout over the Iraq war has hardly done Blair any favours The country is pretty united over whether it was wrong or right though. In Holland its a split in the centre almost (on the original issue not Iraq). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shane2 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2006 Hmmmm i see, i did not know that, but yes you got a fair point there. I personally hope they pull out very soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2006 Me too, although I see it being far from reality, seems there are more important things on the government's minds at the moment. They managed to divert the publics attention of Iraq with the 'foiled terrorist plot' at Heathrow, I wonder if they have any other big news, to divert it again in the future when it becomes decision time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shane2 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2006 Wouldn't surprise me to be honest, our government is good at stall tactics. As long as Bush has his men there, Blair will follow like the Lap-Dog he is Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Max Mosley 2 Report post Posted November 5, 2006 Being in Holland again reminded me, that the Dutch are a pretty good nation, got a good balance in some areas. If only the Muslim debate could somehow be resolved. What exactly are they debating? I know there have been lots of problems there, like Theo van Gogh being killed for a controversial film and you say a polititian? There was that female muslim polititian who had to leave after admitting lying to get into the country, which was a pity as she seemed to have a lot of good things to say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pabloh20 1 Report post Posted November 6, 2006 Our motorways have a limit of 70, the A roads have a limit of 60.Have you passed your driving theory test yet? Ermmm, have you ?? If the national speed limit is applicable then if a road has more than 1 lane the speed limit is 70 and if it's a single carriageway it is 60. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bajo39 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2006 18 lanes ...my cousin is in Canada ATM,i might well have an opportunity to taste America lite (as mike calls it ) very soon ... Even you are welcome Doesnt matter how many lanes, motorways are boring as hell to drive on, an endless exercise in keeping the steering straight and modulating the accelerator so that you stay within the too low speed limit bulls##t, bring up Toronto on Google map and have a look at the DVP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2006 What exactly are they debating? I know there have been lots of problems there, like Theo van Gogh being killed for a controversial film and you say a polititian? There was that female muslim polititian who had to leave after admitting lying to get into the country, which was a pity as she seemed to have a lot of good things to say. Yep, Pim (politican - shot for his views on Muslims) was shot dead before the film maker. They're debating the Muslim issue which it brings - integration and immigration. At one point they were going to vote on banning the veil altogether, things got very bad here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shane2 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2006 So Muslims are the cause of their social decay too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cavallino 2 Report post Posted November 6, 2006 bulls##t, bring up Toronto on Google map and have a look at the DVP. Nah I'll tgake your word for it How disorienting is it to suddenly have to drive on the wrong side of the road, has anyone made that adjustment? I am just scared I'll have a moment of brain fade and that could be bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monza gorilla 1 Report post Posted November 6, 2006 It's not too bad really, although I tried to change gear with the door handle a couple of times! I did have to concentrate at junctions though to make sure I stayed on the right, instead of the completely natural tendency to keep left. It's really not too difficult, as other members will agree I'm sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bajo39 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2006 Nah I'll tgake your word for it As you should... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
c21 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2006 Ermmm, have you ?? If the national speed limit is applicable then if a road has more than 1 lane the speed limit is 70 and if it's a single carriageway it is 60. Shane 2 was refering to motorways, they have more than one lane dont they? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pabloh20 1 Report post Posted November 6, 2006 Shane 2 was refering to motorways, they have more than one lane dont they? Shane was referring to motorways, but you said A roads have a limit of 60. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
c21 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2006 Shane was referring to motorways, but you said A roads have a limit of 60. Ok fair enough, but my main point was motorways. Its all acedemic over here anyway the national speed limit here is only 80 kph! 100 kph seems fast to me now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pabloh20 1 Report post Posted November 6, 2006 Ok fair enough, but my main point was motorways.Its all acedemic over here anyway the national speed limit here is only 80 kph! 100 kph seems fast to me now I was just having a bit of a joke with you. I actually hadn't realised you weren't a UK road user - me bad, sorry!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
c21 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2006 I was just having a bit of a joke with you.I actually hadn't realised you weren't a UK road user - me bad, sorry!! Dont take it back just yet. I may be the fool you thought I was! I am English and still drive my right hand drive car over here! Poke all the fun you want! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pabloh20 1 Report post Posted November 6, 2006 Dont take it back just yet. I may be the fool you thought I was! I am English and still drive my right hand drive car over here! Poke all the fun you want! That made me laugh, C21. Cheers!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
c21 0 Report post Posted November 6, 2006 I am amused!! I aim to please Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
