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#151 Jez

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Posted 07 May 2007 - 04:58 AM

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Posted 07 May 2007 - 02:19 PM

Latest records I've been listening to:

Cornelius -Sensuous: Great. Weird, but great. Good to see that somebody still remembers the concept of "textures" in music.

Her Space Holiday - Home is Where You Hang Yourself: like floating in amnyotic liquid. :D

Muse - Black Holes and Revelations: Another hypnotic, psychedelic cd, kind of like the 60's and 70's but still does not sounds retro. Its a 21st century psychodelia and I like it! Syd Garret's Pink Floyd meets U2 meets Pulp sort of thing. Which takes me to the last update for today...

Jarvis c#cker: The leader of Pulp on a solo album. I am listening at it right now, and having mixed feelings about it. For one side, music is great, really different from Pulp. He seems to adevnturo into different styles and does so gracefully but...he sounds too neat, too "clean". No desperate voicings, nothing like "Common People" which is one of my all time favorites.

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Posted 07 May 2007 - 03:37 PM

Yes, I agree with you about Black Holes and Revelations; excellent. As for Pulp, they're finest moment was This Is Hardcore. Musical sleaze. I'm currently listening to The Kinks "We Are The Village Green Preservation Society". Wonderful.
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Posted 07 May 2007 - 06:15 PM

View PostQuiet One, on May 7 2007, 03:19 PM, said:

Latest records I've been listening to:

Cornelius -Sensuous: Great. Weird, but great. Good to see that somebody still remembers the concept of "textures" in music.

Great suff Andres! Have you listened to 'Point' by Cornelius? It makes me trip my c#ck off.
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Posted 07 May 2007 - 06:19 PM

Guys! Anyone listening to soundtracks? Please suggest good soundtracks!
Do you guys like bands like Posthumus?

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Posted 07 May 2007 - 06:34 PM

View Postabbas_gear, on May 7 2007, 07:19 PM, said:

Guys! Anyone listening to soundtracks? Please suggest good soundtracks!

I am listening to the TF1 soundtrack. It's basically cover songs sung by TF1 members. Here's the track list;

1. California Dreamin' - Autumnpuma
2. Down Under - Aussie
3. Spanish Castle Magic - Player 1
4. Bad - dribbler
5. The Holy Wars - Cavallino
6. Shut Up A Ya Face - YKick
7. Evil Woman - JensonRules
8. Who Let The Dogs Out? - Labrodoracer
9. I like Driving In My Car - Monza Gorilla
10. All By Myself - Shane.
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Posted 07 May 2007 - 06:38 PM

View Postdribbler, on May 7 2007, 06:34 PM, said:

I am listening to the TF1 soundtrack. It's basically cover songs sung by TF1 members. Here's the track list;

1. California Dreamin' - Autumnpuma
2. Down Under - Aussie
3. Spanish Castle Magic - Player 1
4. Bad - dribbler
5. The Holy Wars - Cavallino
6. Shut Up A Ya Face - YKick
7. Evil Woman - JensonRules
8. Who Let The Dogs Out? - Labrodoracer
9. I like Driving In My Car - Monza Gorilla
10. All By Myself - Shane.
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Posted 07 May 2007 - 06:50 PM

:lol: That's bad Steve!  Very bad.  But funny as Hell, funnily enough.
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Posted 07 May 2007 - 07:16 PM

View Postdribbler, on May 7 2007, 07:34 PM, said:

I am listening to the TF1 soundtrack. It's basically cover songs sung by TF1 members. Here's the track list;

1. California Dreamin' - Autumnpuma
2. Down Under - Aussie
3. Spanish Castle Magic - Player 1
4. Bad - dribbler
5. The Holy Wars - Cavallino
6. Shut Up A Ya Face - YKick
7. Evil Woman - JensonRules
8. Who Let The Dogs Out? - Labrodoracer
9. I like Driving In My Car - Monza Gorilla
10. All By Myself - Shane.

Please change #9 to I'm In Love With My Car. Thank you. Much obliged. I take it yours was a minor hit? Arf.
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Posted 07 May 2007 - 07:27 PM

View Postmonza gorilla, on May 7 2007, 12:16 PM, said:

Please change #9 to I'm In Love With My Car. Thank you. Much obliged. I take it yours was a minor hit? Arf.

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Posted 07 May 2007 - 09:45 PM

View Postdribbler, on May 7 2007, 03:15 PM, said:

Great suff Andres! Have you listened to 'Point' by Cornelius? It makes me trip my c#ck off.
Not sure what does that mean (not sure I would like to know, either :lol: )
I haven't listened to it. I will certainly look for it now!
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Posted 07 May 2007 - 10:11 PM

View PostQuiet One, on May 7 2007, 02:45 PM, said:

Not sure what does that mean (not sure I would like to know, either :lol: )
I haven't listened to it. I will certainly look for it now!

Be sure to hold your c#ck, lest it trip off. Hmmm....where would a c#ck go when tripping off? The pub? Maybe a strip bar? Probably get arrested somewhere and need to be bailed out.
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Posted 08 May 2007 - 12:34 AM

View Postmonza gorilla, on May 7 2007, 12:16 PM, said:

Please change #9 to I'm In Love With My Car. Thank you. Much obliged. I take it yours was a minor hit? Arf.
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Posted 08 May 2007 - 06:52 AM

View PostAutumnpuma, on May 7 2007, 11:11 PM, said:

Be sure to hold your c#ck, lest it trip off. Hmmm....where would a c#ck go when tripping off? The pub? Maybe a strip bar? Probably get arrested somewhere and need to be bailed out.
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What about "Jesus Built my Hotrod?"

Ye sir he did, and it's currently down at the strip bar.
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Posted 08 May 2007 - 09:27 AM

View PostArgento, on May 6 2007, 01:03 AM, said:

Good!!!
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Posted 08 May 2007 - 01:25 PM

I've been in a "Moody Blues" mode
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Posted 08 May 2007 - 03:28 PM

If you see the movie "The Prestige" ,don't miss the song when the end credits roll. It's really nice , sober,good music.

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Posted 08 May 2007 - 11:03 PM

I think Love Machine is a better choice of song that I would sing!
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Posted 09 May 2007 - 07:55 AM

View PostJenson_Rules!!!, on May 9 2007, 12:03 AM, said:

I think Love Machine is a better choice of song that I would sing!
I was thinking Lola.
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Posted 09 May 2007 - 10:41 AM

View Postpabloh20, on May 9 2007, 04:55 AM, said:

I was thinking Lola.
L-O-L-A Lola
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Posted 09 May 2007 - 11:02 AM

View PostQuiet One, on May 9 2007, 11:41 AM, said:

L-O-L-A Lola
That's the one - not to be confused with Layla, whole different ball game!  :lol:
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Posted 09 May 2007 - 02:45 PM

View PostQuiet One, on May 9 2007, 03:41 AM, said:

L-O-L-A Lola

Boys will be boys and boys will be girls, it's a mixed up, jumbled up, shooked up world, except for Lola..........
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Posted 09 May 2007 - 03:24 PM

View Postpumpdoc, on May 9 2007, 03:45 PM, said:

Boys will be boys and boys will be girls, it's a mixed up, jumbled up, shooked up world, except for Lola..........
See - how apt is this for Ben?  :lol:
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Posted 09 May 2007 - 04:01 PM

Dunno about Ben but I'm confused!  Were these songs written before me and him were born, or am I just ignorant, or both? :lol:
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Posted 09 May 2007 - 05:21 PM

View PostMurray Walker, on May 9 2007, 01:01 PM, said:

Dunno about Ben but I'm confused!  Were these songs written before me and him were born, or am I just ignorant, or both? :lol:
Well, I know you are not dumb but you can't understand why she walked like a woman and talked like a man :lol:
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Posted 09 May 2007 - 06:00 PM

On a different topic, are any of you off to any gigs soon? Im seeing girls aloud on the 26th at their sell out arena tour!!! Woop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted 09 May 2007 - 06:25 PM

View PostMurray Walker, on May 9 2007, 05:01 PM, said:

Dunno about Ben but I'm confused!  Were these songs written before me and him were born, or am I just ignorant, or both? :lol:
  :eusa_think: Both, probably. About 1970, if that's any help.
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Posted 09 May 2007 - 07:11 PM

View Postdribbler, on Mar 13 2007, 10:13 PM, said:

Look Ben, the idea with an album like 'Entroducing' is that you enjoy the sum of all its parts. You don't listen to clips and make judgements, the album isn't written to make that form of evaluation fair or justified. It's an album that can be enjoyed socially or in isolation. It covers a spectrum of moods from chill out to hard beats; it's an album for all occasions. It is ironic in places, spiritual and very clever. It uses samples that are relevant to my generation (30 somethings) and yet it caters for the teenager who wants to dance to it. I played it in front of my Grandad at a barbeque and he didn't bat an eye lid because it has the sound of social acceptance over generation spans.

If you do not like it, fair play to you. Why should you like it? Taste is a subjective argument. All i'm trying to suggest, as many are here is that instead of enjoying squirty cream and saying it's great because many people eat it, that you try double cream and take a bit of time to enjoy the subtle virtues and differences. This will sound patronising now, but often you will not appreciate the finer things in life until you get a little older and life gains more perspective. I remember the joy my father used to glean from sitting up to his dining room table on a sunday morning, eating his cooked breakfast and looking out into his garden at the birds feeding. 'What a bore' i used to think but now i find myself enjoying similar simple pleasures.

I think it important too for you to appreciate the root cause of so many peoples dislike for band like Girls Aloud. The girls can sing, they have sold plenty of CD's they are great to look at and they have a big following but they represent  a small part of everything wrong with society today. They are throw away; they aren't here to stay because they are not significant, they don't improve or move the game on atall and the public grow more fickle by the day. We want the next big thing and we want it now. It wasn't always like this Ben. Bands were able to have an album that bombed and then come back. It made them what they were, it DEFINED them. These days bands are deliberately conceived to make huge ammounts of money quickly and are then destroyed when the next new band some along. There is something very wrong with that and that is why i despise them and the industry they feed.

Music is an ART. It should be protected and nurtured and not flogged to death for commercial means. People who have a true and deep appreciation of music understand this. Try and look at it this way Ben and you may begin to appreciate better music on a deeper level.
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Posted 09 May 2007 - 07:39 PM

View Postmonza gorilla, on May 9 2007, 07:25 PM, said:

:eusa_think: Both, probably. About 1970, if that's any help.
Cheers.  So singing had already been invented back then?  Wow!  I learn stuff everyday on this site.  When I grow up I wanna be smart.  My mum says I can do it if I really try. :lol:

View PostQuiet One, on May 9 2007, 06:21 PM, said:

Well, I know you are not dumb but you can't understand why she walked like a woman and talked like a man :lol:
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Well I left home just a week before
And I'd never ever kissed a woman before
But Lola smiled and took me by the hand
And said "dear boy I'm gonna make you a man"

It's a very nice song.  I'm listening to it now!

Can I ask the more antique members of the forum, do you think popular music has become more offensive/controversial/dangerous today or not?  It interests me because a lot of imho talented modern artists are criticised for this, but there are plenty of controversially themed songs like this from the old days too.
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