AleHop 0 Report post Posted January 23, 2010 Wow, you try to make a point based solely on statistics AND you get the numbers wrong. Oh, so you think Heidfeld p1ssed all over Kubica in his time at BMW... Are you reading the whole thread or just one post out of three as usually. And you are comparing that record to De La Rosa's, you know how the numbers look for DLR compared to his teammates? Comparing? Who? You think Heidfeld can't keep up with Kubeetza for one lap when you just showed us he did, over 4 seasons? Where I said that? He didn't just have to lower his demands, he had to pay to get a job, not be paid. Peter Sauber has turned his team into a prostitute team, to think I had some respect for the guy. What an idiot. Kobayashi and Heidfeld, the bottom feeders of 10 years ago would kill to have a lineup like that. Are you serious? He just had to move his a## (or manager's a##) and find a sponsor as the rest of the field. The market treats every driver equally. If you dislike what P. Sauber did I think you can build an F1 team and hire whatever drivers you like. Go ahead! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quiet One 15 Report post Posted January 23, 2010 First of all stop agreeing with me. It makes me feel all dirty on the inside. Which is kind of cool actually Ok fine you can keep doing it. I am not agreeing with you. Your mind just surrendered to my superior reasoning skills and finally understood that the only truth is My Truth. Now go fetch me a cup of tea. The Russian can drive for that arms dealer Stefan GP guy who is desperately trying to get on the grid. And he just might, the latest reports have it that US F1 were relying on their status as a mighty world superpower and leaders of the free world to get a car. All they have is a lot of egg on their faces that people threw on them when they went to Mercedes GP, said 'you are either with us or against us' and asked them to hand over all their cars based on the claim that Nico rosberg's hairstyle is a weapon of mass destruction. Can't blame them for trying, after all, it worked with the space program - instead of making their own rockets, invade germany, stole their V2s and their rocket scientists, profit. YEah so Stefan GP might be on the grid. Rumour has it they are watching spartacus to get some inspiration on offensive systems they can attach to their cars. KAlashnikov GP are planning to apply for a place next year, with tobacco advertising gone, F1 is looking to diversify into lesser, equally lucrative evils, and are actively welcoming ammunition manufacturers to invest in and sponsor F1 teams. F1 will soon be more like an R rated version of wacky races. Sometimes I wonder if it isn't already. If you think that the cold war between USF1 and StefanGp is bad, you are not peying enough attention to the rest of the grid. This is what is going to happen, according to my sources (namely, my cute hiney): 1) MGP will annex RBR's garage without consulting the other teams. MGP's Mechanics will walk into RBR's box doing a silly goose walk and shouting "Heil, Schumi!" 2) McL will get p**sed off, so they will send Whitmarsh to stop that outrage. He will come back waving an autographed Vettel's picture and saying that he is bringing home "Peace with Horner" 3) Renault, which had already surrendered everything to McL in the off season, will rise again...only to surrender again, this time to MGP. 4) LdM will smile at MGP's moves and embrace Schumi as a sort of little brother. He will also try to bring glory to Ferrari by conquering some of the smallest and weakest teams, and will have his arse thoroughly kicked. By the time he realize how things have changed, Ferrari will be just MGP's puppet and LdM will be punished by being summoned to Schumi's bunker SUV, where he will be forced to hear MS ranting about his 7 WDCs ad nauseam. 5) If you think what happen to Renault is awful, Kubica's particular fate will be even worse: he will be dismembered and his limbs distributed among the teams... And that's just for a start... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jean Todt 4 Report post Posted January 24, 2010 If Robert Kubica is an overrated driver then I love overrated drivers. They say Raikkonen is an overrated driver too, and Hamilton (actually he is )... I'd rather watch a race with those three overrated drivers on go-karts while I wouldn't bother watching 20 Nick Heidfelds in the fastest cars of the world. What a waste! The bolded part never happened. In 2009 NH got 19 and RK 17. Two points mean nothing when you don't have a decent car and KERS was the worst aid for Kubica. In 2008 NH got 60 and RK 75. Fifteen points when they had a competitive car is quite a lot for the Championship. In 2007 NH got 61 and RK 39. Kubica crashed in Canada and he missed a race. It was a bad season but it has an explanation. In 2006 NH got 10 and RK 6 if you take the same amount of races. We might be talking about different things. For some reason Sauber thought de la Rosa would contribute to his project more than Heidfeld and P. Sauber is supposed to know him better than anybody else as a driver. No. No. No, neither Heidfeld. 2007 was a 'funny' season and Bahrain was 'another good race' for Alonso in McLaren. http://www.f1-racing...hrain_struggle/ That was a great move, nonetheless. Do not understimate the power of the Rose. This is by far perfect THE example (post) I have ever come across of how biased a guy can be when it comes to supporting the a driver just because he is from his country.... The funny thing about this post is that.....he has typed the numbers to show all of us that RK was a better driver, by doing so, he has actually proved us all that Nick was a better driver or faster driver.....and for him two points is nothing.....if only it was Nando who had have scored two points over Lewis by the end of a season, those two points would have meant two million... Even though Nick is not on the list of fastest drivers, he is certainly in a different league to Pedro...Pedro does however bring a lot of valuable info to develop the Sauber, but Nick is not crap in it either.....Nick and Koba would have been a fantastic pairing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jean Todt 4 Report post Posted January 24, 2010 I am not agreeing with you. Your mind just surrendered to my superior reasoning skills and finally understood that the only truth is My Truth. Now go fetch me a cup of tea. If you think that the cold war between USF1 and StefanGp is bad, you are not peying enough attention to the rest of the grid. This is what is going to happen, according to my sources (namely, my cute hiney): 1) MGP will annex RBR's garage without consulting the other teams. MGP's Mechanics will walk into RBR's box doing a silly goose walk and shouting "Heil, Schumi!" 2) McL will get p**sed off, so they will send Whitmarsh to stop that outrage. He will come back waving an autographed Vettel's picture and saying that he is bringing home "Peace with Horner" 3) Renault, which had already surrendered everything to McL in the off season, will rise again...only to surrender again, this time to MGP. 4) LdM will smile at MGP's moves and embrace Schumi as a sort of little brother. He will also try to bring glory to Ferrari by conquering some of the smallest and weakest teams, and will have his arse thoroughly kicked. By the time he realize how things have changed, Ferrari will be just MGP's puppet and LdM will be punished by being summoned to Schumi's bunker SUV, where he will be forced to hear MS ranting about his 7 WDCs ad nauseam. 5) If you think what happen to Renault is awful, Kubica's particular fate will be even worse: he will be dismembered and his limbs distributed among the teams... And that's just for a start... Bravo Andres Bravo.... Btw, Ron was interested in Kubica's nose... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikathegreat2 2 Report post Posted January 24, 2010 Ooo I love the smell of a forum fight! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aussief1 4 Report post Posted January 24, 2010 I thought Bortolotti had been dropped by Red Bull? I'm not sure about that..... He did drive for STR at Jerez in early December. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AleHop 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2010 [quote name='mikathegreat2' date='24 January 2010 - 01:13 AM' timestamp='1264292024' post='308405'] Ooo I love the smell of a forum fight! [/quote] Your nose betrays you this time. What you smell is forum idiocy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jean Todt 4 Report post Posted January 24, 2010 Your nose betrays you this time. What you smell is forum idiocy. The Irony.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aussief1 4 Report post Posted January 24, 2010 Ok apparently it's not final yet. Do the sensible thing stupid frogs, sign Heidfeld, and you will have one of the best driving line ups on the grid. The driving lineup was the last thing that was wrong with BMW, there is absolutely no shame in copying it. It was the car stupid. Andre Theuerzeit, Nick's Manager has confirmed the move Cav. Just goes to show a new side of the non manufacturer era we are now entering when a pay driver has more chance of getting a seat than a proven driver. I still can't help but to think that there is something more to Nick going to MGP as a redundant test driver than meets the eye, is Michael's neck still not 110% right is his own head not 110% convinced that he can still do it?? I don't know, but why would Nick take the seat when it seems that plenty of seats are worthy of his backside??? Is it as I mentioned above just a new era or is there something more, that may or may not come to light during the 2010 season?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AleHop 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2010 Ok apparently it's not final yet. Do the sensible thing stupid frogs, sign Heidfeld, and you will have one of the best driving line ups on the grid. The driving lineup was the last thing that was wrong with BMW, there is absolutely no shame in copying it. It was the car stupid. It was Theissen-Rampf but the question is can Sauber get rid of them? Just goes to show a new side of the non manufacturer era we are now entering when a pay driver has more chance of getting a seat than a proven driver. I think that's it and unless you're a very talented driver and you can join a superteam or start as a rookie star then you have to bring to the team something more that just a mediocre career and experience. Sponsorship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AleHop 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2010 De la Rosa is by far perfect THE example (driver) I have ever come across of how balanced a guy can be when it comes to supporting the a team just because he is loved everywhere in the World.... http://en.tackfilm.se/?id=1264102113750RA37 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Insider 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2010 Wrong post!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elgo 1 Report post Posted January 24, 2010 I am not agreeing with you. Your mind just surrendered to my superior reasoning skills and finally understood that the only truth is My Truth. Now go fetch me a cup of tea. If you think that the cold war between USF1 and StefanGp is bad, you are not peying enough attention to the rest of the grid. This is what is going to happen, according to my sources (namely, my cute hiney): Which reminds me of... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2UKlh4rYAw&feature=PlayList&p=0D27B64070BF1B9F&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=23 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quiet One 15 Report post Posted January 24, 2010 Which reminds me of... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2UKlh4rYAw&feature=PlayList&p=0D27B64070BF1B9F&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=23 BAZINGA! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JHS 1 Report post Posted January 24, 2010 The Irony.. +1! So, where exactly was the evidedence to show Kubica as a better driver than Nick? I'm not seeing one. All I'm seeing here is a big dose of fan-boyism clouding one's judgement. "Yeah well, Nick outscored Kubica, but Kubica is just better because..." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Insider 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2010 With Heidfeld confirmed as Nummer Drei at Deutschland Über Alles F1, who does go to Renault? Petrov must be favourite because he's holding folding from current sponsor Megafon, surely? Or are the tales about JV re-appearing true? I bloody hope not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kopite Girl 0 Report post Posted January 24, 2010 With Heidfeld confirmed as Nummer Drei at Deutschland Über Alles F1, who does go to Renault? Petrov must be favourite because he's holding folding from current sponsor Megafon, surely? Or are the tales about JV re-appearing true? I bloody hope not. If JV re-appears in F1, I'll take a flight to London and walk naked as the day I was born (or in my case hobble along on crutches) down the Old Kent Road. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikathegreat2 2 Report post Posted January 24, 2010 Your nose betrays you this time. What you smell is forum idiocy. Silly me! Forgot to mention Alguersuari has been confirmed @ STR! Not that it's big news cos it was bound to happen! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elgo 1 Report post Posted January 24, 2010 Takuma Sato to Renault! I know it's not gonna happen but hey,would be fun.As would be JV to renault BAZINGA! Damn, I didn't see one of your practical jokes coming!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jean Todt 4 Report post Posted January 24, 2010 http://en.tackfilm.s...64102113750RA37 Desperate? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JHS 1 Report post Posted January 24, 2010 With Heidfeld confirmed as Nummer Drei at Deutschland Über Alles F1, who does go to Renault? Petrov must be favourite because he's holding folding from current sponsor Megafon, surely? Or are the tales about JV re-appearing true? I bloody hope not. ...except he hasn't, has he? No official word saying he has or hasn't and now Heidfeld's manager is denying the rumours... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jean Todt 4 Report post Posted January 24, 2010 If JV re-appears in F1, I'll take a flight to London and walk naked as the day I was born (or in my case hobble along on crutches) down the Old Kent Road. I want JV back in F1 more than ever.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aussief1 4 Report post Posted January 25, 2010 +1! So, where exactly was the evidedence to show Kubica as a better driver than Nick? I'm not seeing one. All I'm seeing here is a big dose of fan-boyism clouding one's judgement. "Yeah well, Nick outscored Kubica, but Kubica is just better because..." Okay, here is my opinion, Robert is seen by many as yet to fulfill his potential were as Nick has had more than enough time to fulfill his. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JHS 1 Report post Posted January 25, 2010 Still doesn't get around the fact that Heidfeld consistently outscored him at BMW! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Insider 0 Report post Posted January 25, 2010 If JV re-appears in F1, I'll take a flight to London and walk naked as the day I was born (or in my case hobble along on crutches) down the Old Kent Road. Hmmm, I'll just see if I can get that story confirmed.................... Why, my dear are you on crutches? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
