Lewis Hamilton : Petulant Child

[Jem of the Shire 0]

He opened his whiny mouth about it. If he didn't like it, he should have talk to Ron in private. He is obviously not a team player, because he worries more about his own reputation than about the team's performance. That's pretty juvenile.

can you please explain what these whiny comments are? As far as I know, all he said was "i'm in car number 2 and i'm the number 2 driver", but in the same press conference he said he's just happy to still be scoring podiums

[Max Mosley 2]

Well I have no idea whether Lewis was whining or not. At first, when I read his comments about being 2nd driver and having to live with that, I thought he was just accepting it politely, after Ron had already admitted the change of strategy, in Alonso's favour. But then I heard Lewis' Dad complaining, and reports of him being annoyed with McLaren, which made me wonder what was really going on. We've also heard reports that Lewis was whooping mad inside the car, until being calmed by Ron himself. It's pretty hard to tell from here what really happened obviously.

However, let's suppose that Lewis was whining. Is that really such a bad thing? Would Ayrton or Michael have willingly accepted being demoted to second driver when ahead on points in the WDC (after 4 races) just because their team-mate was more experienced? Would Jacques or Juan-Pablo for that matter? Personally I think it would show just the kind of character he needs to be successful in the long term. Sportsmen aren't there to be nice to each other, they're there to win imho, so I hope he was kicking up a fuss.

P.S. Could someone tell me about Mika and Eddie making their debuts with Senna? It was before my time. I believe they both outqualified or overtook him (or unlapped themselves?) early on, which he wasn't overly chuffed about. Presumably the rookies didn't accept being made no 2 on team orders - they just weren't given any choice by the old master in the long run?

[cavallino 2]

I forgot which thread we were discussing this in, but Symonds in the Renault pdcast said that Alonso's claim that he saved two laps of fuel is rubbish. I think he reads this forum

[Jem of the Shire 0]

i think there are too many sad people who just want to stick the boot into Hamilton at every opportunity. The same fools who hardly ever use decent evidence to back anything up. Very annoying

[Max Mosley 2]

I forgot which thread we were discussing this in, but Symonds in the Renault pdcast said that Alonso's claim that he saved two laps of fuel is rubbish. I think he reads this forum

Yeah Alonso's obviously trying to cover up Hamilton's honesty.

[pabloh20 1]

He opened his whiny mouth about it. If he didn't like it, he should have talk to Ron in private. He is obviously not a team player, because he worries more about his own reputation than about the team's performance. That's pretty juvenile.

Even though Ron opened his mouth and said about 'team strategy' and controlling the drivers pace before the press conference was aired? So is Ron whiny then?

[Jean Todt 4]

He opened his whiny mouth about it. If he didn't like it, he should have talk to Ron in private. He is obviously not a team player, because he worries more about his own reputation than about the team's performance. That's pretty juvenile.

:yawn: :yawn:

goodnight guys!

[Piotr 0]

goodnight guys!

I see your point

[mikathegreat2 2]

I see your point

1st it was random pics of action blokes pointing the middle finger & now these never-b4-used smilies! At least have something useful to say abbas gear!

[AleHop 0]

i think there are too many sad people who just want to stick the boot into Hamilton at every opportunity. The same fools who hardly ever use decent evidence to back anything up. Very annoying

Yes, some other guys, many of them british journalists, just want to stick the boot into Alonso at every opportunity. They try to justify Hamilton's faults by running down Alonso's success. The same fools who hardly ever use decent evidence...

Very annoying.

[Max Mosley 2]

To some extent, Alehop, but really I don't think Alonso has much to be proud about this year so far. He's only level on points with a rookie team-mate, and even that's only thanks to team orders/luck. At least he's doing better than Kimi.

And you'll be hard pressed to find anyone on this site who defends British journalists on a regular basis.

[AleHop 0]

I forgot which thread we were discussing this in, but Symonds in the Renault pdcast said that Alonso's claim that he saved two laps of fuel is rubbish. I think he reads this forum

He never said that.

That's BS.

[Max Mosley 2]

Symonds did, and I read that Alonso said what he is said to have said. Which one didn't say what Cav said they said?

[AleHop 0]

To some extent, Alehop, but really I don't think Alonso has much to be proud about this year so far. He's only level on points with a rookie team-mate, and even that's only thanks to team orders/luck. At least he's doing better than Kimi.

I prefer not to discuss wether it was team orders/luck or something else. We have a race next sunday and I'll accept the results no matter what. Then we have another race, then another one... and so on up to the last one.

If you're one of the believers on you can win two WDC in a row just by team orders and luck... Then you are one of the guys that try to justify other's errors by running down Alonso's success.

[Jean Todt 4]

1st it was random pics of action blokes pointing the middle finger & now these never-b4-used smilies! At least have something useful to say abbas gear!

goodnight!

[Jean Todt 4]

I see your point

[AleHop 0]

Come on!

Have you seen ITV opening video for Monaco GP 2007?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIJTOnarcaE

Hamilton was totally convinced he would win on Monaco streets and so the british media was. When they saw Alonso had won the race they got furious, Hamilton's dad the most.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4633yau3uc

You can keep going and going but that's the way it was.

Next time folks!

[Jean Todt 4]

Come on!

Have you seen ITV opening video for Monaco GP 2007?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIJTOnarcaE

Hamilton was totally convinced he would win on Monaco streets and so the british media was. When they saw Alonso had won the race they got furious, Hamilton's dad the most.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4633yau3uc

You can keep going and going but that's the way it was.

Next time folks!

DC was supposed to be 007?

[AleHop 0]

DC was supposed to be 007?

Yeah, and it really suits him.

But I bet they were looking for the first black 007 or the first black winner on Monaco streets.

[Jean Todt 4]

Yeah, and it really suits him.

But I bet they were looking for the first black 007 or the first black winner on Monaco streets.

Personally, I know that you know that everyone knows that its not going to happen!

[pabloh20 1]

Come on!

Have you seen ITV opening video for Monaco GP 2007?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIJTOnarcaE

Hamilton was totally convinced he would win on Monaco streets and so the british media was. When they saw Alonso had won the race they got furious, Hamilton's dad the most.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4633yau3uc

You can keep going and going but that's the way it was.

Next time folks!

Why do you keep posting the vid that's called Alonso v Hamilton at every opportunity ? In another thread you posted it as a great vid of Senna and Alonso at Monaco, you also posted it saying it showed Lewis close to crashing and now again in here? I'm sorry, but I am failing to see the relevance to any point - can you explain, please?

[Quiet One 15]

Why do you keep posting the vid that's called Alonso v Hamilton at every opportunity ? In another thread you posted it as a great vid of Senna and Alonso at Monaco, you also posted it saying it showed Lewis close to crashing and now again in here? I'm sorry, but I am failing to see the relevance to any point - can you explain, please?

Because it's such a good argument to win any disussion!

Look at this:

"So, you don't think Liuzzi will be this year's WDC??? Watch this and eat flaming death you Pro-Schumacher mongrel!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4633yau3uc"

End of argument.

As for the video itself, I found it nothing special. maybe if the music was changed to some Abba song...

[elgo 1]

Because it's such a good argument to win any disussion!

Look at this:

"So, you don't think Liuzzi will be this year's WDC??? Watch this and eat flaming death you Pro-Schumacher mongrel!

<A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4633yau3uc""'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4633yau3uc"" target=_blank>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4633yau3uc"

End of argument.

As for the video itself, I found it nothing special. maybe if the music was changed to some Abba song...

this is what I get when trying to watch your video:

The url contained a malformed video id.

[elgo 1]

seriously,do you think that a malformed video id will make us think that liuzzi will be WDC?

[AleHop 0]

I'm sorry, but I am failing to see the relevance to any point - can you explain, please?

It is Hamilton's dad face at the end what makes this video relevant.