Official Pre-season Testing Thread

[hookedon-f1 0]

15:14 times

1. F. Massa Ferrari F2008 1:30.673 23 pit

2. F. Alonso Renault R28 1:31.731 +1.058 9 pit

3. N. Rosberg Williams FW30 1:31.963 +1.290 50 pit

4. D. Coulthard Red Bull Racing RB4 1:32.465 +1.792 29 pit

5. L. Badoer Ferrari F2008 1:32.627 +1.954 22 pit

6. J. Trulli Toyota TF108 1:35.349 +4.676 19 pit

were these times on inters???

[Boudica 0]

Another, idea for the hole in the nose.

But of course it doesn't sound like it will be tested soon.

(Thanks to Manchild)

[Boudica 0]

Apperantly the hole in the nose (Tombazis' idea) has been set aside, for now at least, it won't be introduced at this test, nor at the one next week. Anyway, Ferrari has brought over twenty new things to Barcelona (visible ones and ones inside the car). I don't think they're all on the car today already but important changes have been made to the wings, deflectors/barge boards, sidepods, diffusor, the weight distribution, suspensions, gearbox and mapping of the electronics. From this update an improvement of a few tenths a lap is expected.

[Boudica 0]

were these times on inters???

Yes

[Boudica 0]

FINAL Times from Barcelona. F1 Test-Day 2

Massa-1 :30.673-40 laps

Webber-1: 31,213 +0.540-43 laps

Badoer-1: 31,288 +0.615-33 laps

Coulthard-1: 31,654 +0.981-44 laps

Alonso-1: 31,731 +1.058-28 laps

Rosberg-1: 31,963 +1.290-97 laps

Glock-1: 32,407 +1.734-33 laps

Trulli-1: 32,571 +1.898-47 laps

Hulkenberg-1: 33,102 +2.429-53 laps

Nakajima-No Time-33 laps

Piquet-No Time-1 laps

[BradSpeedMan 6]

Yes

Thanks again for the special updates Boudica... it's really appreciated

[hookedon-f1 0]

Thanks again for the special updates Boudica... it's really appreciated

i second that

[goferrarigo 0]

FINAL Times from Barcelona. F1 Test-Day 2

Massa-1 :30.673-40 laps

Webber-1: 31,213 +0.540-43 laps

Badoer-1: 31,288 +0.615-33 laps

Coulthard-1: 31,654 +0.981-44 laps

Alonso-1: 31,731 +1.058-28 laps

Rosberg-1: 31,963 +1.290-97 laps

Glock-1: 32,407 +1.734-33 laps

Trulli-1: 32,571 +1.898-47 laps

Hulkenberg-1: 33,102 +2.429-53 laps

Nakajima-No Time-33 laps

Piquet-No Time-1 laps

How did Nakajima do 33 laps and still set no time???

i second that

Thirded.

[Quiet One 15]

How did Nakajima do 33 laps and still set no time???

You can't go faster than that...

[Max Mosley 2]

Another, idea for the hole in the nose.

But of course it doesn't sound like it will be tested soon.

(Thanks to Manchild)

This post was particularly interesting. I'd like to read a detailed explanation of all these nose ideas and how they work (I'm sooooo nosey ). I can't quite imagine how this design would work simply by lowering the pressure through a passageway inside the nose. As drawn above, that will surely just create some internal forces that cancel out. To get more downforce I reckon it would have to either change the pressures above the nose or under the nose (hence altering the overall balance of forces) or alternatively there could be (and probably will be) a pressure gradient inside the passageway. If the curvature of the ceiling (ie the underside of the roof) of the passageway is greater than that of the floor of the passageway, as shown, then there would probably be a net downwards force from the air rushing through. I'm not sure about this, and other things to consider as motives for this change would be: how this affects drag, or airflow around the rest of the car.

Anyway, interesting idea. Maybe DOF can get us a technical article on it! Who's Manchild (apart from me)?

[Boudica 0]

This post was particularly interesting. I'd like to read a detailed explanation of all these nose ideas and how they work (I'm sooooo nosey ). I can't quite imagine how this design would work simply by lowering the pressure through a passageway inside the nose. As drawn above, that will surely just create some internal forces that cancel out. To get more downforce I reckon it would have to either change the pressures above the nose or under the nose (hence altering the overall balance of forces) or alternatively there could be (and probably will be) a pressure gradient inside the passageway. If the curvature of the ceiling (ie the underside of the roof) of the passageway is greater than that of the floor of the passageway, as shown, then there would probably be a net downwards force from the air rushing through. I'm not sure about this, and other things to consider as motives for this change would be: how this affects drag, or airflow around the rest of the car.

Anyway, interesting idea. Maybe DOF can get us a technical article on it! Who's Manchild (apart from me)?

It come from F1technical.net

[Boudica 0]

Info from TS:

The weather should be better on Thursday so we'll probably see McLaren on the track then.

As it's already been said here, Kimi has a flu and will test only on Friday when the track has been reserved to Ferrari for private use.

Then about the big fine McLaren got last year. Initially it was supposed to be paid by the end of February, but now McLaren has got with Bernie's help more time for it and can pay it in parts.

[BradSpeedMan 6]

You can't go faster than that...

Hahahahahaha

brilliant the Quiet One

[Boudica 0]

10:10 Times:

1.Massa - Ferrari - 1:26.158 - 3 vueltas

2.Glock - Toyota - 1:27069 - 3 vueltas

3.Badoer - Ferrari - 1:27947 - 7 vueltas

4.Alonso - Renault - 1:28458 - 6 vueltas

5.Rosberg - Williams - 1:29307 - 6 vueltas

6.Hulkenberg - Williams - 1:30022 - 6 vueltas

7.Kovalainen - McLaren - 1:30110 - 7 vueltas

8.Piquet - Renault - 1:31.082 - 4 vueltas

9.De la Rosa - McLaren - 1:32.755 - 5 vueltas

10.Coulthard - RedBull - sin tiempo - 1 vuelta

11.Webber - RedBull - sin tiempo - 1 vuelta

12.Kobayashi - Toyota - sin tiempo -1 vuelta

[Boudica 0]

Times updated 10:35

1.Glock - Toyota - 1:23.893 - 15 laps

2.Piquet - Renault - 1:24.638 - 9 laps

3.Alonso-Renault - 1:24.701 - 10 laps

4.Hulkenberg - Williams - 1:25.721 - 24 laps

5.Massa - Ferrari - 1:26.158 - 5 laps

6.Badoer - Ferrari - 1:27.947 - 7 laps

7.Rosberg - Williams - 1:29.157 - 9 laps

8.Kovalainen - McLaren - 1:30.110 - 7 laps

9.De la Rosa - McLaren - 2:32.757 - 6 laps

10.Webber - RedBull - without time - 9 laps

11.Coulthard - RedBull - without time - 1 lap

12.Kobayashi - Toyota - no time - 1 lap

[Boudica 0]

Times until 11:01

1.Alonso - Renault - 1:23.041 - 15 vueltas

2.De la Rosa - McLaren - 123.394 - 15 vueltas

3.Piquet - Renault - 1:23718 - 19 vueltas

4.Glock - Toyota - 1:23.893 - 15 vueltas

5.Rosberg - Williams - 1:23.930 - 16 vueltas

6.Hulkenberg - Williams - 1:25.724 - 11 vueltas

7.Massa - Ferrari - 1:26.158 - 12 vueltas

8.Badoer - Ferrari - 1:27.947 - 5 vueltas

9.Kovalainen - McLaren -1:30.110 - 7 vueltas

10.Webber - RedBull - sin tiempo - 10 vueltas

Coulthard - RedBull - sin tiempo - 4 vueltas

Kobayashi - Toyota - sin tiempo - 1 vuelta

[Boudica 0]

The track conditions are much better today, but there has still been a few incidents:

Heikki - Has caused 2 red flags already, once by coming to a stand still on track and the other reason is unknown.

Massa - Driving off track.

Webber - His car came to stand still.

[Quiet One 15]

Great to see Nelsinho and Nando's times getting closer!

I was worried we would have to hear another year of comments a la Alan Permane on Piquet's radio.

[Max Mosley 2]

It's still 7 tenths per lap!

[Boudica 0]

12:38

1. F. Massa Ferrari F2008 1:22.442 27 pit

2. F. Alonso Renault R28 1:22.657 +0.215 36 pit

3. M. Webber Red Bull Racing RB4 1:23.014 +0.572 25 pit

4. P. de la Rosa McLaren MP4-23 1:23.394 +0.952 14 pit

5. N. Piquet Jr. Renault R28 1:23.718 +1.276 18 pit

6. T. Glock Toyota TF108 1:23.893 +1.451 15 pit

7. N. Rosberg Williams FW30 1:23.930 +1.488 16 pit

8. N. H

[Boudica 0]

1. F. Massa Ferrari F2008 1:22.442 27 pit

2. F. Alonso Renault R28 1:22.657 +0.215 57 pit

3. H. Kovalainen McLaren MP4-23 1:22.887 +0.445 27 pit

4. M. Webber Red Bull Racing RB4 1:23.014 +0.572 27 pit

5. P. de la Rosa McLaren MP4-23 1:23.131 +0.689 40 pit

6. L. Badoer Ferrari F2008 1:23.433 +0.991 47 pit

7. D. Coulthard Red Bull Racing RB4 1:23.479 +1.037 37 pit

8. N. Rosberg Williams FW30 1:23.506 +1.064 47 pit

9. N. Piquet Jr. Renault R28 1:23.718 +1.276 51 pit

10. T. Glock Toyota TF108 1:23.745 +1.303 38 pit

11. N. H

[Boudica 0]

1.- F. Massa-1:22.442-52 vueltas

2.- P. De La Rosa-1:22.461-54 vueltas

3.- F. Alonso-1:22.657-57 vueltas

4.- H. Kovalainen-1:22.787-36 vueltas

5.- M. Webber-1:23.014-28 vueltas

6.- N. Rosberg-1:23.213-72 vueltas

7.- L. Badoer-1:23.315-65 vueltas

8.- D. Coulthard-1:23.479-38 vueltas

9.- N. Piquet-1:23.718-62 vueltas

10.- T. Glock-1:23.745-66 vueltas

12.- N. Hulkenberg-1:24.222-54 vueltas

12.- K. Kobayashi-1:24.532-32 vueltas

[Boudica 0]

Times updated 16:50

1.Kovalainen - McLaren - 1:22185 - 57 laps

2.De la Rosa - McLaren - 1:22.208 - 84 laps

3.Massa - Ferrari - 1: .22.213 - 83 laps

4.Rosberg - Williams - 1:22.248 - 102 laps

5.Coulthard - RedBull - 1:22.499 - 89 laps

6.Badoer - Ferrari - 1:22.535 - 97 laps

6.Alonso - Renault - 1:22.557 - 61 laps

7.Webber - RedBull - 1:23.014 - 67 laps

8.Nakajima - Williams - 1:23.120 - 21 laps

9.Piquet - Renault - 1:23.286 - 92 laps

10.Glock - Toyota - 1:23.430 - 96 laps

11.Kobayashi - Toyota - 1:24.132 - 46 laps

12.Hulkenberg - Williams - 24,222 - 54 laps

[Boudica 0]

1. K. Nakajima Williams FW30 1:22.153 32 pit

2. H. Kovalainen McLaren MP4-23 1:22.185 +0.032 64 pit

3. P. de la Rosa McLaren MP4-23 1:22.208 +0.055 92 pit

4. F. Massa Ferrari F2008 1:22.213 +0.060 96 pit

5. D. Coulthard Red Bull Racing RB4 1:22.599 +0.446 53 pit

6. F. Alonso Renault R28 1:22.657 +0.504 57 pit

7. M. Webber Red Bull Racing RB4 1:23.014 +0.861 43 pit

8. N. Rosberg Williams FW30 1:23.142 +0.989 75 pit

9. L. Badoer Ferrari F2008 1:23.277 +1.124 71 pit

10. T. Glock Toyota TF108 1:23.430 +1.277 74 pit

11. N. Piquet Jr. Renault R28 1:23.641 +1.488 77 pit

12. K. Kobayashi Toyota TF108 1:24.132 +1.979 36 pit

13. N. H

[aussief1 4]

I don't see why SA can't get themselve some decent sponsorship... If Minardi could survive SA should be able to.

Minardi had some good cash coming in through their pay drivers while at SAF1, Honda want Anthony in the race seat and not a pay driver like Narain. Tricky situation indeed.

Anyway back to the testing times they look as confusing as ever but never fear Melbourne is just around the corner (well sort of)