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[dribbler]

Schumikonen, on Dec 19 2006, 10:16 AM, said:

I think women from every culture are different but in my country what I used to do was to listen what they were talking and get involved in the conversation like answering something that she asked to the person that she is talking too, sometimes you don't get the right answer from them but will find the way keep the conversation alive, what you really need to get her attention and don't mind about any hard answer that you get using this method, it will always work if you keep the good mood and keep answering but don't do it to much the first time if is somebody that you can see often and you can give it another try later.

How would she get a word in with you though? You never pause for breath!  

Which reminds me; My wife said to me the other day that i don't talk to her anymore. I said "well dear, i didn't want to interrupt you".

You see what i did there? I set myself up for an absolute rib tickler of a gag. I just can't believe how funny i can be sometimes. Ahhhh....

[pabloh20]

dribbler, on Dec 19 2006, 06:04 PM, said:

How would she get a word in with you though? You never pause for breath!  

Which reminds me; My wife said to me the other day that i don't talk to her anymore. I said "well dear, i didn't want to interrupt you".

You see what i did there? I set myself up for an absolute rib tickler of a gag. I just can't believe how funny i can be sometimes. Ahhhh....

You missed a trick there, though, Steve - you could have put a   before the punchline and said I can't help laughing, I know the ending!!  

[dribbler]

pabloh20, on Dec 19 2006, 08:21 PM, said:

You missed a trick there, though, Steve - you could have put a   before the punchline and said I can't help laughing, I know the ending!!  

You're obviously a pro'. Have you got one of them sparkly gold jackets that cheesy stand ups wear?

[Shane2]

*shudders* those guys are really creepy

[pabloh20]

dribbler, on Dec 19 2006, 09:45 PM, said:

You're obviously a pro'. Have you got one of them sparkly gold jackets that cheesy stand ups wear?

I'll have you know I have never, ever charged anyone for sex and anyone who says otherwise is..........ohhhh, that type of pro!!  

[bajo39]

I've seen some truly awful advice in this thread that as an advocate of the male gender I cannot help but correct.  

Firstly, the best way to approach a girl is to simply walk up to her and say "Hi, how's it going?" and don't worry that you don't really have anything else to say. You're saying "Hi" because you want to sleep with her, not because you have any other agenda, and she understands this in her subconcious.  

Secondly, the best place to meet women is really anywhere other than at a bar - girls are very suspicious of men at bars but because most guys only approach women there (because it's easier), that's the only place they meet girls.  Don't be one of those guys - your productivity will be much higher if you approach women elsewhere. Finally, don't ever compliment girls on anything and especially not their appearance unless you comment on something that they are probably insecure about, like for example if they are really tall you could say "boy, I just love really tall girls".  

Also, try not to agree with them (this should come naturally) and keep your interactions very brief so that you don't waste time.  If you are meeting her for the first time, say "Hi", introduce yourself and then go straight for her number/email without any small talk inbetween.  Never make small talk, not when you first introduce yourself, not over the first phone call or the first date or ever.  Actually, I should just comment briefly on dating.

Your first date should always include alcohol and never include dinner or anything that costs money (other than alcohol).  Ideally, you should get her to meet you late one night at a bar where you are already going.  You can do whatever you were going to do, ignoring her as need be, until she is drunk and insecure enough to go home with you.  For your second date, you invite her over to have a bottle of wine late one night after you have had dinner (obviously, you're always too busy to have dinner).  For each successive date until she breaks up with you, you invite her over for sex.  No dinner dates, no movie dates and no activity dates - none of this, ever.  And, of course, don't go on a third date if you don't get some sort of action on either of the first two.

Oh and don't ever go on blind dates and don't ever date girls you meet at work or through work.  Also, never date single mothers; never date Russian women or other gold diggers; don't date married women, strippers, hookers, any woman with a myspace/facebook/other online profile and don't ever make friends with a woman you want to sleep with because you'll never get laid.  Also, don't listen to advice from women, married men or men who have girlfriends.

[Shane2]

If you are a cheap a$$hole that likes a one night stand, or are just generally a chauvanistic pig, your methods would work just fine Bajo, but any real girl of substance would see you for the cheap arse that you are, and act accordingly, and if you are of my ilk, and look for relationships and not cheap sex then those methods do not work. I despise chauvanism, and i feel that this passage kind of illustrates a shallow and uncaring personality. Women are not discardable sex objects, and most decent ones do not like being treated like said sex objects.

[bajo39]

Shane2, on Dec 19 2006, 10:22 PM, said:

If you are a cheap a$$hole that likes a one night stand, or are just generally a chauvanistic pig, your methods would work just fine Bajo, but any real girl of substance would see you for the cheap arse that you are, and act accordingly, and if you are of my ilk, and look for relationships and not cheap sex then those methods do not work. I despise chauvanism, and i feel that this passage kind of illustrates a shallow and uncaring personality. Women are not discardable sex objects, and most decent ones do not like being treated like said sex objects.

Thank you for implying that I am a cheap a##hole who only wants to get laid.  At this stage in my life, this is very much the truth and I'm proud of it...  Well, when it comes to women anyway.  Believe it or not, with my male friends and all my family members, I'm actually quite generous and generally a nice guy.

P.S. women are discardable sex objects IMO.  At least to the extent that you can replace one with another of equal value without incurring significant expense.  And we all can if we follow the simple advice I laid out above.

[Schumikonen]

bajo39, on Dec 20 2006, 12:57 AM, said:

P.S. women are discardable sex objects IMO.  At least to the extent that you can replace one with another of equal value without incurring significant expense.  And we all can if we follow the simple advice I laid out above.

I know that you are not serious about this, I can't think of a man who consider himself a man speaking like this about women, to me women are one of the most important part of my life, first is God and then women, sometime they are trying to get in they way between God and me but that is something that I am trying to work out, I like to see women walking in the street, seating on a bench, doing whatever they want to do, in TV, on a magazine, in a picture, I like to hear then speaking, singing, I like to be around then, I think women are the best thing that God created He saved the best for last, they are just beautiful in every way and they don't even need they make up they wear sometime, the only thing I don't like about women is the mestrual period but there's nothing I can do about that, now I understand this about Solomon.

1 Kings 11
Solomon Disobeys the LORD
1-2The LORD did not want the Israelites to worship foreign gods, so he had warned them not to marry anyone who was not from Israel.
   Solomon loved his wife, the daughter of the king of Egypt. But he also loved some women from Moab, Ammon, and Edom, and others from Sidon and the land of the Hittites. 3-4Seven hundred of his wives were daughters of kings, but he also married three hundred other women.

You never see the best looking woman, you can see one that you think is the best one and then a better one apears, teh thing is that they are all different, even twins are different.

[bajo39]

Schumikonen, on Dec 20 2006, 05:31 AM, said:

I know that you are not serious about this, I can't think of a man who consider himself a man speaking like this about women, to me women are one of the most important part of my life, first is God and then women, sometime they are trying to get in they way between God and me but that is something that I am trying to work out, I like to see women walking in the street, seating on a bench, doing whatever they want to do, in TV, on a magazine, in a picture, I like to hear then speaking, singing, I like to be around then, I think women are the best thing that God created He saved the best for last, they are just beautiful in every way and they don't even need they make up they wear sometime, the only thing I don't like about women is the mestrual period but there's nothing I can do about that, now I understand this about Solomon.

[pumpdoc]

     

[Shane2]

Quote

Thank you for implying that I am a cheap a##hole who only wants to get laid. At this stage in my life, this is very much the truth and I'm proud of it... Well, when it comes to women anyway. Believe it or not, with my male friends and all my family members, I'm actually quite generous and generally a nice guy.

P.S. women are discardable sex objects IMO. At least to the extent that you can replace one with another of equal value without incurring significant expense. And we all can if we follow the simple advice I laid out above.

All i can say is i am glad i have never considered you a friend. You sound like you belong in Arabia or one of those other countries where they oppress women and treat them like slaves. Chauvanism is not a trait to be proud of.

Edited by Shane2, 20 December 2006 - 05:22 PM.

[Sato]

I'm with you on that one, Shane.

[bajo39]

Shane2, on Dec 20 2006, 12:22 PM, said:

All i can say is i am glad i have never considered you a friend. You sound like you belong in Arabia or one of those other countries where they oppress women and treat them like slaves. Chauvanism is not a trait to be proud of.

Who said anything about oppressing women?

Anyway the middle eastern outlook on women is only as extreme as the western one relative to the world norm.  Did you know that it is only in a few western countries (like the UK, US, Canada, etc), which make up a relatively small proportion of the world's population, that women are considered first among equals? You should travel more.

[goldjaazz]

Schumikonen, on Dec 20 2006, 09:31 PM, said:

I know that you are not serious about this, I can't think of a man who consider himself a man speaking like this about women, to me women are one of the most important part of my life, first is God and then women, sometime they are trying to get in they way between God and me but that is something that I am trying to work out, I like to see women walking in the street, seating on a bench, doing whatever they want to do, in TV, on a magazine, in a picture, I like to hear then speaking, singing, I like to be around then, I think women are the best thing that God created He saved the best for last, they are just beautiful in every way and they don't even need they make up they wear sometime, the only thing I don't like about women is the mestrual period but there's nothing I can do about that, now I understand this about Solomon.

1 Kings 11
Solomon Disobeys the LORD
1-2The LORD did not want the Israelites to worship foreign gods, so he had warned them not to marry anyone who was not from Israel.
   Solomon loved his wife, the daughter of the king of Egypt. But he also loved some women from Moab, Ammon, and Edom, and others from Sidon and the land of the Hittites. 3-4Seven hundred of his wives were daughters of kings, but he also married three hundred other women.

You never see the best looking woman, you can see one that you think is the best one and then a better one apears, teh thing is that they are all different, even twins are different.

WTF??????

[Shane2]

bajo39, on Dec 20 2006, 06:15 PM, said:

Who said anything about oppressing women?

Anyway the middle eastern outlook on women is only as extreme as the western one relative to the world norm.  Did you know that it is only in a few western countries (like the UK, US, Canada, etc), which make up a relatively small proportion of the world's population, that women are considered first among equals? You should travel more.

Treating women like sex objects is about as good as oppressing them. And how is having equal rights for all extreme?

[pumpdoc]

Shane2, on Dec 20 2006, 01:58 PM, said:

Treating women like sex objects is about as good as oppressing them. And how is having equal rights for all extreme?

My wife treats me like a sex object, I don't feel oppressed

...........and she likes it when i come home all sweaty and stinky and throw her on the bed/floor/couch or wherever for a quickie.      

Edited by pumpdoc, 21 December 2006 - 01:42 AM.
because I wanted too

[Schumikonen]

goldjaazz, on Dec 20 2006, 04:55 PM, said:

WTF??????

Can you just figure out that, 1000 wives, I am sure that he didn't know the names of all of them, being with one a day, he would be for almost three year with a different wives every day, Salomon was king and they had men to take care of all their wives but they didn't have their sexual part, they were called eunuchs that was the only way the kings had to make sure that non of them will have sex with their wives, even when the king wouldn't have the time to satisfy them all, probably they used to do this because they knew that their wives would be in the natural need someday.

Mathews 19
12For some are eunuchs because they were born that way; others were made that way by men; and others have renounced marriage[c]because of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it."

I just can imaging me in that situation today with a least 800 of them working an giving me their paycheck, I think I wouldn't have time for them with all the accounting I would have to do.

[bajo39]

Shane2, on Dec 20 2006, 04:58 PM, said:

Treating women like sex objects is about as good as oppressing them.

How so?

Shane2, on Dec 20 2006, 04:58 PM, said:

And how is having equal rights for all extreme?

I would love for men to have equal rights in North America but we don't...

[bajo39]

Schumikonen, on Dec 20 2006, 10:27 PM, said:

Can you just figure out that, 1000 wives, I am sure that he didn't know the names of all of them, being with one a day, he would be for almost three year with a different wives every day, Salomon was king and they had men to take care of all their wives but they didn't have their sexual part, they were called eunuchs that was the only way the kings had to make sure that non of them will have sex with their wives, even when the king wouldn't have the time to satisfy them all, probably they used to do this because they knew that their wives would be in the natural need someday.

Mathews 19
12For some are eunuchs because they were born that way; others were made that way by men; and others have renounced marriage[c]because of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it."

I just can imaging me in that situation today with a least 800 of them working an giving me their paycheck, I think I wouldn't have time for them with all the accounting I would have to do.

Do you believe what you read in the bible?

[narain fan]

bajo39, on Dec 21 2006, 09:16 AM, said:

Do you believe what you read in the bible?

read this ....  
http://www.totalf1.c...h...7272&st=180

Edited by narain fan, 21 December 2006 - 05:27 AM.

[Jean Todt]

Shane2, on Dec 20 2006, 05:22 PM, said:

All i can say is i am glad i have never considered you a friend. You sound like you belong in Arabia or one of those other countries where they oppress women and treat them like slaves. Chauvanism is not a trait to be proud of.

      shane, got nothing against you, but actually, most of the women in arab countries live a better life when compared to the rest of the world, as dan says, if u have travelled a little more you will understand what i am trying to say, it is just that they are not being given the social rights, other than in countries like iran and afganistan, women do hold the house hold powers.if their husband doesnt treat them well, they can voice their concern and see that he doesnt repeat his antics.  the marrage system in those countries are different from countries like india, that is the bride's family doesnt have to pay anything to the groom, it is just the reverse and these men have to meet their demands before they get married (like an extra apparment to rent it out to the asian workers for a steady income). there is no trafficing of women, there is no exploitations like in countries like (am ashamed to say) india, thailand etc etc....
  
      however, i am all against treating women as slaves. if anyone who has fallen in love with a girl, would know their true value, and feel the magic even when just thinking about the one whom he is in love with.

[Schumikonen]

abbas_gear, on Dec 21 2006, 12:55 AM, said:

shane, got nothing against you, but actually, most of the women in arab countries live a better life when compared to the rest of the world, as dan says, if u have travelled a little more you will understand what i am trying to say, it is just that they are not being given the social rights, other than in countries like iran and afganistan, women do hold the house hold powers.if their husband doesnt treat them well, they can voice their concern and see that he doesnt repeat his antics.  the marrage system in those countries are different from countries like india, that is the bride's family doesnt have to pay anything to the groom, it is just the reverse and these men have to meet their demands before they get married (like an extra apparment to rent it out to the asian workers for a steady income). there is no trafficing of women, there is no exploitations like in countries like (am ashamed to say) india, thailand etc etc....
  
      however, i am all against treating women as slaves. if anyone who has fallen in love with a girl, would know their true value, and feel the magic even when just thinking about the one whom he is in love with.

Pretty good answer,    I didn't know about women in Arab countries living a better life, but is good to hear that, Women are just special and we should be talking good care of all of them.

1 Peter 3
7If you are a husband, you should be thoughtful of your wife. Treat her with honor, because she isn't as strong as you are, and she shares with you in the gift of life. Then nothing will stand in the way of your prayers.

[devilsinskirts]

I hope that this thread has been very useful to young Dark Rider 13 in his halting attempts to get into the knickers of the one he has his eye on. I have some doubt about it though.

[Schumikonen]

bajo39, on Dec 20 2006, 10:46 PM, said:

Do you believe what you read in the bible?

I absolutely do, I used to be an Atheist and now a Praise the Lord Jesuschrist because I've seen his power, his miracles, his authority so I don't have any reason to doubt about the bible and you should believe it too.

[Schumikonen]

devilsinskirts, on Dec 21 2006, 04:31 AM, said:

I hope that this thread has been very useful to young Dark Rider 13 in his halting attempts to get into the knickers of the one he has his eye on. I have some doubt about it though.

I think the best he can do is show this thread to her and then ask her what does she think is the best idea.

[devilsinskirts]

Schumikonen, on Dec 21 2006, 09:40 AM, said:

I think the best he can do is show this thread to her and then ask her what does she think is the best idea.

  

Yes, that is clearly the best idea!

[pabloh20]

Schumikonen, on Dec 21 2006, 09:40 AM, said:

I think the best he can do is show this thread to her and then ask her what does she think is the best idea.

Why?  Does he want to get rid of her now ??  

[Jean Todt]

Schumikonen, on Dec 21 2006, 09:40 AM, said:

I think the best he can do is show this thread to her and then ask her what does she think is the best idea.

dark rider would get a    

[cavallino]

[quote name='Schumikonen' post='162826' date='Dec 20 2006, 09:31 PM']the only thing I don't like about women is the mestrual period but there's nothing I can do about that,[/quote]

That is possibly worse than anythign bajo said..

1 Kings 11
Solomon Disobeys the LORD
1-2The LORD did not want the Israelites to worship foreign gods, so he had warned them not to marry anyone who was not from Israel.
   Solomon loved his wife, the daughter of the king of Egypt. But he also loved some women from Moab, Ammon, and Edom, and others from Sidon and the land of the Hittites. 3-4Seven hundred of his wives were daughters of kings, but he also married three hundred other women.

You never see the best looking woman, you can see one that you think is the best one and then a better one apears, teh thing is that they are all different, even twins are different.
[/quote]


[quote name='Shane2' post='162903' date='Dec 21 2006, 08:58 AM']Treating women like sex objects is about as good as oppressing them. And how is having equal rights for all extreme?[/quote]

No. When it is done in a setting where there is a legal issue, then there is a problem. Between consenting adults, who cares. Theer are plenty of women of the kind that bajo prefers, and it's his life.

Did I just defend bajo  

[quote name='abbas_gear' post='162939' date='Dec 21 2006, 04:55 PM']shane, got nothing against you, but actually, most of the women in arab countries live a better life when compared to the rest of the world[/quote]

Umm no. Many of those countries have vile primitive stone age laws and customs. That is a very hollow claim to make. Women should be free to live the lives they want, let them decide what they think is a better life.

[quote] it is just that they are not being given the social rights, other than in countries like iran and afganistan, women do hold the house hold powers.
[/quote]No.

[quote]
if their husband doesnt treat them well, they can voice their concern and see that he doesnt repeat his antics.[/quote]

No they can't. Pakistan recently overturned a rape law, where a woman had to produce 6 male witnesses to prove a rape I am sure Iran, Saudi Arabia and their ilk still have those laws. In fact (and the last thing I want is to be called anti Muslim) but the divorce law in the Indian Muslim Personal Code is a travesty against justice and all human values.

The right to equality under law and the right to not be discriminated against is a basic human principle, any country that does not follow it should be ashamed.

(That said there are countries in that ergion with far more liberal laws, so the generalisation doesn't work, of course.)

[quote]
  the marrage system in those countries are different from countries like india, that is the bride's family doesnt have to pay anything to the groom
[/quote]Brides Don't know, the other laws are so barbaric as to make that rather academic.

[quote]there is no trafficing of women,[/quote]

Plenty, though from other countries usually.

[quote]there is no exploitations like in countries like (am ashamed to say) india, thailand etc etc....[/quote]

Rubbish.They just can't speak about it.  

Did I jsut agree with Shane        

PS: From my limited knowledge, women in places like UAE, Lebanon etc. have many more rights.

PPS: Iran was once one of the most liberal countries in the middle east

Edited by cavallino, 21 December 2006 - 03:22 PM.