Today In F1

[JHS 1]

very intersting what Bridgestone said about Sauber´s performance and tyre degradation. Another Honda/Brawn saga?

Yes, I was intererested to learn that too. I imagine them strong in the first stint when the top 10 has to race of the tyres they did Q3 with and towards the end in the last stint where tyre wear may become a real issue. I wouldn't be suprised if they get podiums, but I would be suprised if they did start winning.

[Persevere 0]

I know that we are all excited about Bahrain but I was cheered this morning by good news from the grand old man himself. When I first became aware of the existence of what I would have then called "Grand Prix" racing, there were only two names I fully grasped: Juan Manuel Fangio and Stirling Moss.

http://www.motorspor...e.asp?ID=359802

[pabloh20 1]

I know that we are all excited about Bahrain but I was cheered this morning by good news from the grand old man himself. When I first became aware of the existence of what I would have then called "Grand Prix" racing, there were only two names I fully grasped: Juan Manuel Fangio and Stirling Moss.

http://www.motorspor...e.asp?ID=359802

Indeed. He seems in good spirits, so hopefully he will recover soon.

His email did make me laugh, it's exactly how you expect him to be

[Medilloni 6]

I know that we are all excited about Bahrain but I was cheered this morning by good news from the grand old man himself.

What a great email, from a great man. Thanks for posting the link Percy

When I first became aware of the existence of what I would have then called "Grand Prix" racing, there were only two names I fully grasped: Juan Manuel Fangio and Stirling Moss.

Thank f*ck. You're older than me Chris, but there's one more from around-ish the Moss era that really stirred my imagination as a sprog, and that's Lorenzo Bandini - can't explain why, but watching him was the spark for my lifelong F1 insanity.

[Rainmaster 7]

I know that we are all excited about Bahrain but I was cheered this morning by good news from the grand old man himself. When I first became aware of the existence of what I would have then called "Grand Prix" racing, there were only two names I fully grasped: Juan Manuel Fangio and Stirling Moss.

http://www.motorspor...e.asp?ID=359802

Nice catch, good to see he's okay. But we already knew he was made of strong stuff!

The picture is such a classic

[JHS 1]

I find it quite amusing that Stirling was racing unquestionably at a point where F1 was most dangerous, but it takes a faulty lift to do any real damage. What a legend, good to hear he's in high spirits (as ever).

[Rainmaster 7]

I find it quite amusing that Stirling was racing unquestionably at a point where F1 was most dangerous, but it takes a faulty lift to do any real damage. What a legend, good to hear he's in high spirits (as ever).

Well, he did have a serious accident at Goodwood in '62 if memorythis website serves. Anyway, clearly by reading that email he needs to work on his hazard perception.

[JHS 1]

Yeah, old people! Should be more bloomin' careful!

[Kopite Girl 0]

Women! If she wasn't chewing his ear off yapping, he'd have looked where he was going!

Ha. I jest. Greatest driver to never be champion.

[Persevere 0]

What a great email, from a great man. Thanks for posting the link Percy

Thank f*ck. You're older than me Chris, but there's one more from around-ish the Moss era that really stirred my imagination as a sprog, and that's Lorenzo Bandini - can't explain why, but watching him was the spark for my lifelong F1 insanity.

So many hopes were placed on Bandini by Ferrari at that time. He raced in both F1 and sports cars for the Scuderia... until that horrid accident at Monaco in 1967. I saw that race - honest, it was broadcast in the U.S. on the old Wide World of Sports - and the camera remain fixed on him as he sat hopelessly stuck in his burning car. I'm sorry, but it's such an awful memory, and like Clark's death a year later, is still (obviously) lodged in my head.

But you're right, sir: he was a very fine driver, well-liked and respected by those in the sport. How odd, then, that Moss has survived so many from that era, including those who were younger than him.

[Medilloni 6]

So many hopes were placed on Bandini by Ferrari at that time. He raced in both F1 and sports cars for the Scuderia... until that horrid accident at Monaco in 1967. I saw that race - honest, it was broadcast in the U.S. on the old Wide World of Sports - and the camera remain fixed on him as he sat hopelessly stuck in his burning car. I'm sorry, but it's such an awful memory, and like Clark's death a year later, is still (obviously) lodged in my head.

But you're right, sir: he was a very fine driver, well-liked and respected by those in the sport. How odd, then, that Moss has survived so many from that era, including those who were younger than him.

The same footage that was all over the BBC I'd bet, I saw it too Percy. It's strange now, to remember watching it, crying like a baby... the same when Jim Clark's wrecked car was shown on TV.

So, we're in the 'Today in F1' thread and going off topic (for a change ), but I wonder sometimes, did that terrible, sad time in F1 (in terms of safety) make the sport more passionate? Is that why the drivers were 'gentlemen' (relatively)? Did/has any other sport involved the fans in the same way - the link between being at the top of their game, and paying the ultimate price for a mistake?

Sorry, I'll bugger off to the Historical F1 discussions

[Kopite Girl 0]

Edit. Double post.

[Kopite Girl 0]

The same footage that was all over the BBC I'd bet, I saw it too Percy. It's strange now, to remember watching it, crying like a baby... the same when Jim Clark's wrecked car was shown on TV.

So, we're in the 'Today in F1' thread and going off topic (for a change ), but I wonder sometimes, did that terrible, sad time in F1 (in terms of safety) make the sport more passionate? Is that why the drivers were 'gentlemen' (relatively)? Did/has any other sport involved the fans in the same way - the link between being at the top of their game, and paying the ultimate price for a mistake?

Sorry, I'll bugger off to the Historical F1 discussions

Like in the Puma's sig Meds, the only sport is motorsport. The others are a game.

[Ikyrotz 0]

Martin Whitmarsh on harmony within the team, Kimi Räikkönen and whether the dispute over their wing affects FOTA cooperation (in German).

http://www.motorspor...i_10031229.html

To put it shortly:

- Lewis and Jenson get along well, Kimi & J-P combination caused more sparks

- Is a big fan of Kimi, considers him super-fast and exciting, it was very close that he had returned to McLaren, but suspects Kimi's interest in rallying was the reason he did not end up joining them.

- Does not think the dispute over the McLaren rear wing causes any trouble with FOTA.

[JHS 1]

- Lewis and Jenson get along well, Kimi & J-P combination caused more sparks

Hahaha! Yeah, right....

[Autumnpuma 0]

So many hopes were placed on Bandini by Ferrari at that time. He raced in both F1 and sports cars for the Scuderia... until that horrid accident at Monaco in 1967. I saw that race - honest, it was broadcast in the U.S. on the old Wide World of Sports - and the camera remain fixed on him as he sat hopelessly stuck in his burning car. I'm sorry, but it's such an awful memory, and like Clark's death a year later, is still (obviously) lodged in my head.

But you're right, sir: he was a very fine driver, well-liked and respected by those in the sport. How odd, then, that Moss has survived so many from that era, including those who were younger than him.

The same footage that was all over the BBC I'd bet, I saw it too Percy. It's strange now, to remember watching it, crying like a baby... the same when Jim Clark's wrecked car was shown on TV.

So, we're in the 'Today in F1' thread and going off topic (for a change ), but I wonder sometimes, did that terrible, sad time in F1 (in terms of safety) make the sport more passionate? Is that why the drivers were 'gentlemen' (relatively)? Did/has any other sport involved the fans in the same way - the link between being at the top of their game, and paying the ultimate price for a mistake?

Sorry, I'll bugger off to the Historical F1 discussions

I'm just going to re-read these two posts for a while and try to learn a bit from them. This forum is fortunate indeed to have two people of such fine racing pedigree posting in it.

[JHS 1]

Haha, yeah, this is "Today in F1" not "50 years ago Today in F1" although that would be a pretty interesting thread. Hmm....

[Persevere 0]

(From BBC Sport)

Red Bull F1 driver Mark Webber answers your questions

Red Bull Formula 1 driver Mark Webber answers your questions as part of a new series for the website this year.

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...Your old team-mate David Coulthard drove a Mercedes W196 in a display in Bahrain. In 1955, Fangio drove one of those to victory on the old banked circuit at Monza. If you could go back in time to 1955, would you be prepared to race that car on the Monza banking?

Rob MacDonald, UK

Fundamentally all F1 drivers are wired up the same even though we're from different eras. Some of the risk-taking that happened back then, for the drivers of that day it was just how it was and that's what they did. The guys of this era would do the same thing, it's just that there's different safety levels now which come in every walk of life, not just motor racing, so people have a different perception on what is correct and what's not from 60 years ago. So, I would have loved the challenge of that and would have loved to have had a crack at the banking.

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Well said, Mr. Webber.

[Rainmaster 7]

Excellent, and I would expect nothing less from a driver of Webbo's calibre, or from any Aussie of course.

[BradSpeedMan 6]

Martin Whitmarsh on harmony within the team, Kimi Räikkönen and whether the dispute over their wing affects FOTA cooperation (in German).

http://www.motorspor...i_10031229.html

To put it shortly:

- Lewis and Jenson get along well, Kimi & J-P combination caused more sparks

- Is a big fan of Kimi, considers him super-fast and exciting, it was very close that he had returned to McLaren, but suspects Kimi's interest in rallying was the reason he did not end up joining them.

- Does not think the dispute over the McLaren rear wing causes any trouble with FOTA.

So, if I get this right....essentially it depended on Kimi agreeeing to race for them or not, and then declined. What this means is that he's still highly in demand, remember he only considered racing for Mclaren.

This is good news folks, I fully expect Kimi to be back racing in F1 soon.

[Autumnpuma 0]

(From BBC Sport)

Red Bull F1 driver Mark Webber answers your questions

Red Bull Formula 1 driver Mark Webber answers your questions as part of a new series for the website this year.

************************************************

...Your old team-mate David Coulthard drove a Mercedes W196 in a display in Bahrain. In 1955, Fangio drove one of those to victory on the old banked circuit at Monza. If you could go back in time to 1955, would you be prepared to race that car on the Monza banking?

Rob MacDonald, UK

Fundamentally all F1 drivers are wired up the same even though we're from different eras. Some of the risk-taking that happened back then, for the drivers of that day it was just how it was and that's what they did. The guys of this era would do the same thing, it's just that there's different safety levels now which come in every walk of life, not just motor racing, so people have a different perception on what is correct and what's not from 60 years ago. So, I would have loved the challenge of that and would have loved to have had a crack at the banking.

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Well said, Mr. Webber.

A few years back, when SpeedTV was SpeedVision, they showed the flick Grand Prix and they had a lot of special features for the showing. One of those features was Jacques Villeneuve racing a '67 Honda on the old banking. Yet one more reason I like JV.

So, if I get this right....essentially it depended on Kimi agreeeing to race for them or not, and then declined. What this means is that he's still highly in demand, remember he only considered racing for Mclaren.

This is good news folks, I fully expect Kimi to be back racing in F1 soon.

Only a fool would think Kimi doesn't belong in F1. Why prove a point to fools? His quality puts him at the sharp end of the grid but between his salary demands and the top teams already having contracts with other drivers, his prospects were limited. I fully expect him back on the grid next season.

[yurp 0]

(From BBC Sport)

Red Bull F1 driver Mark Webber answers your questions

Red Bull Formula 1 driver Mark Webber answers your questions as part of a new series for the website this year.

************************************************

...Your old team-mate David Coulthard drove a Mercedes W196 in a display in Bahrain. In 1955, Fangio drove one of those to victory on the old banked circuit at Monza. If you could go back in time to 1955, would you be prepared to race that car on the Monza banking?

Rob MacDonald, UK

Fundamentally all F1 drivers are wired up the same even though we're from different eras. Some of the risk-taking that happened back then, for the drivers of that day it was just how it was and that's what they did. The guys of this era would do the same thing, it's just that there's different safety levels now which come in every walk of life, not just motor racing, so people have a different perception on what is correct and what's not from 60 years ago. So, I would have loved the challenge of that and would have loved to have had a crack at the banking.

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Well said, Mr. Webber.

Okay - respect to Webber, but then again, he was hardly going to say anything else was he?

He's not going to say - 'No way, I'd crap myself, cos I'm a pussy and I can't even handle a bit of rain.'

[Persevere 0]

Okay - respect to Webber, but then again, he was hardly going to say anything else was he?

He's not going to say - 'No way, I'd crap myself, cos I'm a pussy and I can't even handle a bit of rain.'

You're such an old cynic, and that's supposed to be my role!

"Fundamentally all F1 drivers are wired up the same even though we're from different eras."

That's the key to what he said, damn it. Don't make me come over there and hit you with my walker.

[yurp 0]

You're such an old cynic, and that's supposed to be my role!

"Fundamentally all F1 drivers are wired up the same even though we're from different eras."

That's the key to what he said, damn it. Don't make me come over there and hit you with my walker.

Fundamentally , drivers being human, and humans being organic, they don't have any ****ing wires.

[Kopite Girl 0]

See. Thats where your wrong. I have 2 wires. They were put there by nice mr doctor when I had my bike accident. (Shattered pelvis, even though i stood up afterward for a second and collapsed again. Long story. Plate in my head too!)

Back to topic... sorry.