Null 0 Report post Posted January 16, 2006 NH will be looking for advicestick to relevant input please Firstly, you are wrong. NH knows what he is doing - he is apparently very good with car setups, especially with the Sauber team. Secondly, DO NOT TELL ME WHAT TO WRITE, ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THIS FORUM VERY LITTLE. Am I not allowed to joke? Up yours mate. You are on my blacklist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narain fan 0 Report post Posted January 16, 2006 You are on my blacklist Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wez 0 Report post Posted January 16, 2006 Firstly, you are wrong. NH knows what he is doing - he is apparently very good with car setups, especially with the Sauber team.Secondly, DO NOT TELL ME WHAT TO WRITE, ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THIS FORUM VERY LITTLE. Am I not allowed to joke? Up yours mate. You are on my blacklist. Very aggressive today hey Antonia... How was your Monday? dont worry, 7 days till the next one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michelfx 0 Report post Posted January 16, 2006 Firstly, you are wrong. NH knows what he is doing - he is apparently very good with car setups, especially with the Sauber team.Secondly, DO NOT TELL ME WHAT TO WRITE, ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THIS FORUM VERY LITTLE. Am I not allowed to joke? Up yours mate. You are on my blacklist. Jokes are good but don't be affraid of reality Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monza gorilla 1 Report post Posted January 16, 2006 Very aggresive hey Antonio... How was your Monday? dont worry, 7 days till the next one. Yeah, it was a bit pit bull. My Monday is cool btw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michelfx 0 Report post Posted January 16, 2006 BMW has it all a good PR guy for the german press and a good driver that will help the team accomplish great things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Max Mosley 2 Report post Posted January 16, 2006 Very aggressive today hey Antonia... Yes, very nasty. Keep up the good work Antonia! (Don't take it to heart though michelfx) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Null 0 Report post Posted January 16, 2006 He shouldn't be making silly comments like that (see his post on "what's your occupation - a single post of around 3 words - not very wise to make comments such as that and then make posts like the one you have on here!). Shame Bajo is not here My Monday has been alright actually, been revising for pretty much all of the day though Yes, very nasty. Keep up the good work Antonia! Well, I am the (self elected) TF1 chief whip, I must keep my minions in order! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narain fan 0 Report post Posted January 16, 2006 ). Shame Bajo is not here hope it is a voluntary vacation and not a forced exile Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jem of the Shire 0 Report post Posted January 16, 2006 As Ive said before I have no doubt that in the not too distant future BMW will once again be a force in Formula 1. They have never failed in any motor sport (hence the fact they left Williams to go at it on their own). They have been champions in Formula 1(with Brabham) La mans, German touring cars, British touring cars, European touring cars, world touring cars, South African touring cars... Don't forget that Jaguar have an amazing sporting history but flopped when it came to f1. Touring cars and f1 are 2 entirely different areas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Senna 0 Report post Posted January 16, 2006 hope it is a voluntary vacation and not a forced exile Like yours. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narain fan 0 Report post Posted January 16, 2006 Like yours. it is easy to judge a person's EQ and IQ by reading their response i was expecting the same words ,so i gauged it perfectly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funkejay 0 Report post Posted January 17, 2006 ...please don't... just go slagging and name calling for the sake of it. I have a very low tolerance for that type of behaviour. When I see that, it is like a matador waving a red flag at me, and I have to run at the offending person with my nostrils flared.... I sympathize YHR, but I've come to learn that there are certain "contributors" to this forum that simply do not respond to logic or civilized debate. Sometimes it is better to just ignore the taunts and jabs of those who have nothing particularly intelligent to add to the debate, and allow your posts to speak for themselves. Your posts are intelligent and well reasoned, and those of us who take the time to read and understand the points you make, have no trouble appreciating them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nojvnof1 0 Report post Posted January 17, 2006 If you support a driver or a team through adversity and they come good sometime, its a wonderful feeling, and it lasts a long time, I think that is what holds JVians together. Well said. That and an important thing called loyalty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narain fan 0 Report post Posted January 17, 2006 this is what the official BMW-SAUBER website has to say about JV : From prodigious talent to fastest world champion in history and beyond,Jacques Villeneuve is one of the most experienced and knowledgeable drivers in the field and has already left a major impact on the history of formula 1.one-dimensional thinking is however not a trait the outspoken Indy 500 winner is known forNot a natural conformist, JACQUES VILLENEUVE has always courted controversy already in his F3 days ,he was far a far cry from the dappere athlete outside the c#ckpit.he unabashadly sported a long ponytail .steel-rimmed specs,sandals and a mischevious charm.when he came into F1 in 1996,he upset some purists with his downbeat reaction to the inevitable question about following his illustriouys father,who raced for ferrari in the late 1970s and in the early 80s until his death in practice for the belgian grandprix at Zolder in may 1982. jacques was not about to wear his heart on his sleeve ,just to satisfy the needs of others and refused to say the romantic things that some wanted to hear instead it took him no time to demonstrate his candour and a penchant for saying exactly what he was thinking.It is this innate honesty that has lead him into trouble at times,notably ,when critisism of the FIA,the sports governing body,resulted in him being summoned from canada to paris just prior to the 1997 Canadian Grand Prix on the track named after his father Jacques merely shrugs at such things "i have always spoken my mind" he says " i have always been brought up to say what i feel,thats all,why would i behave any other way" Honesty and Honour are two key cornerstones to his character,he is often described as a maverick,but once you understand those factors,everything else falls into place.Besides speaking his mind,he has a code of driving ethics,of which his father would have been proud.For Father and son,the manner in which they fought a race was more important than the actual result,and like his father ,he has always regarded the corectness of the tactic you adopt while defending position as a crucial part of his make up as a racing driver.Look back at his lengthy career ,with its eleven victories and that World championship crown and you will never find jacques pulling unsporting moves on his rivals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wez 0 Report post Posted January 17, 2006 Don't forget that Jaguar have an amazing sporting history but flopped when it came to f1. Touring cars and f1 are 2 entirely different areas Except that Bmw have won an F1 championship before as well as made some of the best f1 engines of the past 5 years and are on another level to Jaguar, particularly financially. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michelfx 0 Report post Posted January 17, 2006 Except that Bmw have won an F1 championship before as well as made some of the best f1 engines of the past 5 years and are on another level to Jaguar, particularly financially. You can't compare the 2 Jaguar is cheap and didn't want to spend any money on the program They thought that it was going to be easy... After all we are Jaguar are we not? wrong! Nothing but good will come out of The BMW program Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wez 0 Report post Posted January 17, 2006 You can't compare the 2Jaguar is cheap and didn't want to spend any money on the program They thought that it was going to be easy... After all we are Jaguar are we not? wrong! Nothing but good will come out of The BMW program Exactly! I watched the Bmw Launch, very classy stuff. It may still take some time to win races but I see BIG things for Bmw in the future of F1, these guys mean bussiness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michelfx 0 Report post Posted January 17, 2006 Exactly!I watched the Bmw Launch, very classy stuff. It may still take some time to win races but I see BIG things for Bmw in the future of F1, these guys mean bussiness. They will invest a lot and spare no expense in order to win I missed the launch Boy that hurts! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wez 0 Report post Posted January 17, 2006 They will invest a lot and spare no expense in order to winI missed the launch Boy that hurts! I think you may still be able to see part of it on the official Bmw Sauber website. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michelfx 0 Report post Posted January 17, 2006 I think you may still be able to see part of it on the official Bmw Sauber website. LOOKING NOW Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
funkejay 0 Report post Posted January 17, 2006 this is what the official BMW-SAUBER website has to say about JV : It's all nice stuff, to be sure....... Listen, i'm not trying to stir up a conspiracy, and despite what MT may say about there being two equal No. 1(s) in the team, I'm not buying it. There was only one new F1.06 chassis to put through the paces today, and it went to NH. JV got a re-liveried Sauber to putz around in. Hey it had to go to someone, and being a German, NH obviously got the nod. But irrespective of the reasoning, this seems to be developing into a pattern, and patterns generally evidence trends.... At the end of the day, I'm glad to see that they're playing up JV and being nice, but it's only talk. Whatever else might be going on aside, I'll reserve judgement on whether JV is getting a fair shake at BMW until the season is underway. Did anyone else notice the "zero" keel design they employed. Very similar to McLaren and the new Toyota...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narain fan 0 Report post Posted January 17, 2006 Did anyone else notice the "zero" keel design they employed. Very similar to McLaren and the new Toyota...... yes the new suspension is explained in detail by Willy rampf in the article i posted .... It's all nice stuff, to be sure.......Listen, i'm not trying to stir up a conspiracy, and despite what MT may say about there being two equal No. 1(s) in the team, I'm not buying it. There was only one new F1.06 chassis to put through the paces today, and it went to NH. JV got a re-liveried Sauber to putz around in. Hey it had to go to someone, and being a German, NH obviously got the nod. But irrespective of the reasoning, this seems to be developing into a pattern, and patterns generally evidence trends.... someone had to drive it first anyway the first 2 weeks are basically getting used to the car,so irrespective of who drives it first,as long as both get same amount of track time ..it hardly matters,who drove it for the first time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cavallino 2 Report post Posted January 17, 2006 Ferrari have stuck to the single keel design interestingly. Listen, i'm not trying to stir up a conspiracy, and despite what MT may say about there being two equal No. 1(s) in the team, I'm not buying it. Don't blame you, after BMW's attitude to him throughout last season it'll take far moer to convince anyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narain fan 0 Report post Posted January 17, 2006 Ferrari have stuck to the single keel design interestingly.Don't blame you, after BMW's attitude to him throughout last season it'll take far moer to convince anyone. BTW last week in one of the test reports ,i read that BMW were trying a new "traction control" perhaps they want JV to get used to it before he drives the new car,just to optimise the time spent in the new car Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
