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[freaky2]

pabloh20, on Dec 4 2008, 11:19 PM, said:

I don't feel like I have got that high up the ladder yet

Do you know the Ninja Turtles? They're from the sewers too! Must make great neighbours

[Grabthaw the Hammerslayer]

freaky2, on Dec 4 2008, 11:47 PM, said:

Do you know the Ninja Turtles? They're from the sewers too! Must make great neighbours

Reminds me of a joke.

Bloke goes to a fancy-dress party with his girlfriend on his back. Host opens the door, looks confused and asks: "what have you come as?"

He replies: "A Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle!"

Host even more confused goes: "eh?"

Guy replies - "Oh yes, this is Michelle"

[freaky2]

Meanioni, on Dec 5 2008, 08:06 AM, said:

Reminds me of a joke.

Bloke goes to a fancy-dress party with his girlfriend on his back. Host opens the door, looks confused and asks: "what have you come as?"

He replies: "A Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle!"

Host even more confused goes: "eh?"

Guy replies - "Oh yes, this is Michelle"

[pabloh20]

freaky2, on Dec 4 2008, 11:47 PM, said:

Do you know the Ninja Turtles? They're from the sewers too! Must make great neighbours

They're not really.  They act like they live in a shell or something

[mikathegreat2]

Meanioni, on Dec 4 2008, 08:34 PM, said:

manure.jpg

There - manure.

Oh you said Maure....

Well...

   Man this resident comedian of the year might go to you Meanioni for the 1st time in the history of Total F1!

[DOF_power]

1906-2009

R.I.P. Grand Prix racing

[mikathegreat2]

DOF_Renault_BMW, on Dec 5 2008, 08:00 PM, said:

1906-2009

R.I.P. Grand Prix racing

Oh, dear! Have the FIA confirmed standard engines for 2010???

[cavallino]

So being a man of his word he will quit now wont he? Yippee, what an honourable man, I will marry my daughter to him.

[dribbler]

Meanioni, on Dec 5 2008, 08:06 AM, said:

Reminds me of a joke.

Bloke goes to a fancy-dress party with his girlfriend on his back. Host opens the door, looks confused and asks: "what have you come as?"

He replies: "A Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle!"

Host even more confused goes: "eh?"

Guy replies - "Oh yes, this is Michelle"

Reminds me of that old Jimmy Cricket chestnut; "My sister has just had a baby. They have called her Denise. If it had been a boy they'd have called it Denephew".

[Grabthaw the Hammerslayer]

dribbler, on Dec 7 2008, 07:37 AM, said:

Reminds me of that old Jimmy Cricket chestnut; "My sister has just had a baby. They have called her Denise. If it had been a boy they'd have called it Denephew".

    

[Rainmaster]

Alonso did not threaten to quit, he is a bollocking joker and he did not never threaten to quit, he just made a little comment which means balls all in my book. Of course, if we follow the Golden Rule, then we see that this piece of news never made it to Autosport.com, which usually means it is bollocky news which means nothing. Saying that, standard engines is a bad bad rule, probably, and if Alonso really does want to quit because of it, then I say more downforce power to him.

[dribbler]

McLaren, threaten= Renault.

Renault, threaten= NASCAR.

Shut up and drive.

[Schumikonen]

Murray Walker, on Dec 3 2008, 08:46 AM, said:

Quite right, Schumikonen.  Even if others forget, Alonso himself is only too aware of how _both_ his WDCs were won by his engine's superior performance and reliability.

  How could you do this, I mean you say this about Alonso here and then go to the press to say this about him http://www.crash.net...of_the_lot.html

Now I don't know on which side you are, I thought you were one of the good guys who knows that Alonso is not all that but with this news I don't know anymore what to think about you, please stand on one side and remember that good guys don't support Alonso, don't root for him, that's a rule that can't be broken actually you are only allow to root for him in one race every season if this can help another driver to win the title, I was going to PM you about this but this is something that needs to be clarify in public, so I am waiting for you.

[BradSpeedMan]

Schumikonen, on Dec 8 2008, 03:14 PM, said:

  How could you do this, I mean you say this about Alonso here and then go to the press to say this about him http://www.crash.net...of_the_lot.html

Now I don't know on which side you are, I thought you were one of the good guys who knows that Alonso is not all that but with this news I don't know anymore what to think about you, please stand on one side and remember that good guys don't support Alonso, don't root for him, that's a rule that can't be broken actually you are only allow to root for him in one race every season if this can help another driver to win the title, I was going to PM you about this but this is something that needs to be clarify in public, so I am waiting for you.

    

I have to admit I was also wondering "which side he is on"

[Max Mosley]

Schumikonen, on Dec 8 2008, 01:14 PM, said:

  How could you do this, I mean you say this about Alonso here and then go to the press to say this about him http://www.crash.net...of_the_lot.html

Now I don't know on which side you are, I thought you were one of the good guys who knows that Alonso is not all that but with this news I don't know anymore what to think about you, please stand on one side and remember that good guys don't support Alonso, don't root for him, that's a rule that can't be broken actually you are only allow to root for him in one race every season if this can help another driver to win the title, I was going to PM you about this but this is something that needs to be clarify in public, so I am waiting for you.

  I'm getting old now, Schumikonen, and sometimes I forget things.  Alonso is the McLaren man, right?  The one who beat the 2x WDC as a rookie?

BradSpeedMan, on Dec 8 2008, 01:35 PM, said:

    

I have to admit I was also wondering "which side he is on"

  Someone's backside, I hope.

[Jean Todt]

dribbler, on Dec 7 2008, 08:37 AM, said:

Reminds me of that old Jimmy Cricket chestnut; "My sister has just had a baby. They have called her Denise. If it had been a boy they'd have called it Denephew".

[Schumikonen]

Murray Walker, on Dec 8 2008, 10:03 AM, said:

  I'm getting old now, Schumikonen, and sometimes I forget things.  Alonso is the McLaren man, right?  The one who beat the 2x WDC as a rookie?

I am glad to hear this from you, Alonso was a Mclaren man who caused a 100,000,000 fine to the team for talking to much the one who got beaten by the rookie who is the WDC today, do you have a clearer picture now?

[Fed up]

Quote

Although there has been no official confirmation from the FIA about the level of interest in the deal, with Mosley simply claiming last Friday that he had been contacted by three teams, investigations by autosport.com have revealed that half the grid are now seriously looking into it.

Autosport.com understands that as well as wholly independent teams Williams and Force India having shown an interest, Red Bull Racing and Scuderia Toro Rosso have told the FIA that they are taking the option into consideration.

But the biggest surprise is that French car manufacturer Renault is believed to have told the FIA that it too is interested in the supply of standard engines.

Such a move would mark a significant departure for the car maker, who have supplied engines from their Viry-Chatillon base in France since they returned to F1 in 2001.

However, with Renault having long faced financial pressures from their parent company to justify their involvement in F1, the prospect of a dramatic reduction in engine budget from 2010 may be enough to quell any unease that could lead to the French car manufacturer following Honda out of the sport.

Renault boss Flavio Briatore was unavailable for comment about Renault's interest in standard engines, but did say at the season-closing Brazilian Grand Prix that power units were one area where big cost savings could be made.

"I think we are in a very difficult position economically, what is going on around the globe and it's a panic at the moment," he said. "Formula One is not immune from this panic. I believe our chairman and everybody is very sensitive as to what happens in Formula One as well.

"Regarding the question of the engines, sure we need to cut the costs but for me, all this discussion about Formula One engines, already today, with frozen engines, theoretically there is no development. I don't understand all the time how it's surprising when people are talking about engine development etc.

"Already today we have no performance (gains) from the engine. If everybody follows the rules, the engine is frozen and nobody is allowed to touch the engine. Whatever proposal we put together, we need to take into consideration this as well."

The FIA has made it clear that it will not force manufacturers to run a standard engine from 2010, but Mosley said in last week's letter than any car maker's own power unit will have its performance pegged to that of the standard engine.

With no performance differentiation between the different types of engines, Briatore may have felt that there was little point in Renault continuing to fund a full-scale engine programme for tens of millions of pounds, when there is a fully-competitive option for less than �6 million.

http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/72413

Edited by Fed up, 09 December 2008 - 02:48 PM.

[medilloni]

Looks like they've found a way of getting out of Fernando's contract then  

[Max Mosley]

Yes but it won't stop him complaining that he and his team mate get the same engine.

[Schumikonen]

Murray Walker, on Dec 9 2008, 01:44 PM, said:

Yes but it won't stop him complaining that he and his team mate get the same engine.

That's exactly what he wants to avoid, he needs to be treated as a number one driver to be successful, don't you remember that he complained about not being treated as number one at Mclaren? and that treatment gave the rookie the chance to beat him like he did.

[Max Mosley]

  Exactly!  He'll be worried about Piquet when these new Cosworths come in.

[Schumikonen]

Murray Walker, on Dec 10 2008, 06:16 AM, said:

  Exactly!  He'll be worried about Piquet when these new Cosworths come in.

I can understand a team talking about quiting over this but not a driver, I don't see any big deal for drivers to be using the same engine as everybody else, just look at thoses teams using Ferrari engines, they are not a match for them on the track, so why does he is talkingabout quiting unless he is really concerned about NP like you said.

[Max Mosley]

Yeah.  Poor,  poor Alonso.  The only glimmer of hope is that, with his skill at cheating, he should still be able to get an advantage in his Renault-Ferrari next year.

[Schumikonen]

Murray Walker, on Dec 11 2008, 12:08 PM, said:

Yeah.  Poor,  poor Alonso.  The only glimmer of hope is that, with his skill at cheating, he should still be able to get an advantage in his Renault-Ferrari next year.

You mean Ferrari is going to be the standar engine's supplier? if so the duel Kimi-Massa is going to be great next season.

[DOF_power]

Renault have denied they'll go for standard engines.


Anyway the Renault Grand Prix team witch invented/pioneered/introduced to grand Prix racing hydraulic dampers, detachable wheels rims, turbos, pit-car radio, data logging/telemetry, pneumatic valves, V10s, mass dampers is no more.    



This abomination called Formula 1 must die for true Grand Prix formulae racing to return one day.

[Schumikonen]

DOF_Renault_BMW, on Dec 12 2008, 07:07 AM, said:

Renault have denied they'll go for standard engines.

Anyway the Renault Grand Prix team witch invented/pioneered/introduced to grand Prix racing hydraulic dampers, detachable wheels rims, turbos, pit-car radio, data logging/telemetry, pneumatic valves, V10s, mass dampers is no more.    

This abomination called Formula 1 must die for true Grand Prix formulae racing to return one day.

I agree in part, I think in F1 got to this point, it can be turned back to where we want to see it again, I mean it would be better for almost everybody the get F1 back to what it was than getting a new racing series because F1 is thecnology but it is tradition and history also, a new racing series could bring excitment but I doubt it would take F1 place it will take a really long time to achive this so I really prefer to see changes in F1 and I mean changes in F1 leadership but right now I think it would be difficult because of this "world economy crisis" and all thoses big company trying to get money out of the goverments, I know there is a crisis but it is not that big as many people are trying to make us think.

[The Rumble Strip]

In a way I can't blame him.

F1 had a reputation of being the best and it was the job of teams to catch up to whoever was in front at the time.  Whilst I appreciate we are in tough economic times, the introduction of standard engines just places F1 in the same category as any other spec series.