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#31 Insider

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Posted 11 July 2009 - 04:53 PM

BGP are in deep Sh#t.  JB is 10kg lighter than Hambone in 5th and 20kg than Webber on pole.  Rubens is only 3kgs heavier than his team mate.  Jens was clearly fuelled for pole and and a long middle stint and blew it.  His last middle sector was crap! They need to jump the Red Bull at the off or the day will be long and hard, wet or dry.  Webber is not the greatest starter on earth and he's heavy. I have to say, the RBR cars are beginnig to look remarkably like Brawn clones and Macca have virtually rebuilt their car - hope it cost them a fortune! :lol: [I do hate swaggering show offs].  Time for Jenson to show us what he's really made of.  I hope it rains hard here and there and we have a fine spectacle to watch.  Q2 was ace.

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Posted 11 July 2009 - 05:45 PM

View PostCinco, on 11 July 2009 - 01:49 AM, said:

Hmm, I see some grass and maybe some weeds, but no moss.

(Damn, that was horrible).

I'm embarrassed for you :P Actually I quite liked that effort!

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That was a sorta interesting quali session, or at least it seemed like it might have been, I wasn't really paying that much attention due to gaming factors. Glad for Webber, he has a good fuel load and the Brawn's don't look awfully fast if conditions remain the same. Tomorrow is his best chance of shaking off any criticisms people might have raised against him before; I wish him well.

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Posted 11 July 2009 - 06:23 PM

yes....i agree with you guys....webber deserves a win and hope he gets it for all the hardwork put by him all these years.....even redbull need to realize that they have webber cannot be made no.2 so early....

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Posted 11 July 2009 - 06:26 PM

forgot to mention sutil's performance...no doubt force india car has improved recently but to run faster than both ferrari being the heaviest in the top ten is remarkable....hats off...definitely star of the future....

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Posted 11 July 2009 - 06:47 PM

It's Webber's race to lose. Would be pleasantly surprised to see Sutil in points, but dreading the prospect of jingoism by Indian media & people. As for Ferrari, I think Massa had said they have good race pace but not in quali. If that's the case, then hoping for another good drive from him.



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Posted 11 July 2009 - 07:00 PM

View PostLabradoRacer, on 11 July 2009 - 06:47 PM, said:

It's Webber's race to lose. Would be pleasantly surprised to see Sutil in points, but dreading the prospect of jingoism by Indian media & people. As for Ferrari, I think Massa had said they have good race pace but not in quali. If that's the case, then hoping for another good drive from him.

And Kimi too.
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Posted 11 July 2009 - 07:05 PM

hoping something special from fernando and heidfield...both are good in wet weather.....they start from 11th and 12th which is a big advantage than people in 8,9,10 positions....hopefully force india gets their first points tomorrow..

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Posted 11 July 2009 - 08:35 PM

View PostLabradoRacer, on 11 July 2009 - 06:47 PM, said:

It's Webber's race to lose. Would be pleasantly surprised to see Sutil in points, but dreading the prospect of jingoism by Indian media & people. As for Ferrari, I think Massa had said they have good race pace but not in quali. If that's the case, then hoping for another good drive from him.



:lol:

I do wish they soon find a good Indian driver. Its high time people in India start choosing the career they are good at. Not all of us have to be IT engineers and doctors or work in call centers.

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Posted 11 July 2009 - 08:57 PM

View PostLabradoRacer, on 11 July 2009 - 06:47 PM, said:

It's Webber's race to lose. Would be pleasantly surprised to see Sutil in points, but dreading the prospect of jingoism by Indian media & people. As for Ferrari, I think Massa had said they have good race pace but not in quali. If that's the case, then hoping for another good drive from him.

The record book would say otherwise i.e. the Red Bull / Williams unreliability.

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Posted 11 July 2009 - 09:31 PM

It's Webber's race to lose because he starts from the best possible position, with the best fuel load. Red Bull have a good mechanical record so far this year, although it wouldn't be surprising to see Webber suffer their first(?) failure of some sort this season, the guy seems to have a black cloud over him sometimes (will probably have a few above him tomorrow).
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Posted 11 July 2009 - 10:33 PM

View PostEl Maestro, on 11 July 2009 - 09:31 PM, said:

It's Webber's race to lose because he starts from the best possible position, with the best fuel load. Red Bull have a good mechanical record so far this year, although it wouldn't be surprising to see Webber suffer their first(?) failure of some sort this season, the guy seems to have a black cloud over him sometimes (will probably have a few above him tomorrow).
The cloud he may over him tomorrow may actually help him win the race, but Vettel will be a mencaing sight in his mirrors. Barichello and Button and Lewis are the other rain masters who will be happy to see the dark clouds.

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Posted 12 July 2009 - 12:40 AM

I'm sure a dry race would suit Webber just fine, less of a lottery and he'd still be in the best position.
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Posted 12 July 2009 - 02:09 AM

I'm not looking forward to watching this GP. I'll be too nervous to enjoy it! May the gods be kind to the Aussie!!!

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Posted 12 July 2009 - 02:43 AM

View Postabbas_gear, on 11 July 2009 - 08:35 PM, said:

:lol:

I do wish they soon find a good Indian driver. Its high time people in India start choosing the career they are good at. Not all of us have to be IT engineers and doctors or work in call centers.

Yeah, please get out of the call centers, you aren't very helpful :P.

I hope for rain.  I don't care who wins I just want it to poor rain!  RAIN BABY RAIN!!!!  And then let Webber win.
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Posted 12 July 2009 - 02:50 AM

View PostCinco, on 12 July 2009 - 02:43 AM, said:

Yeah, please get out of the call centers, you aren't very helpful :P .

I hope for rain.  I don't care who wins I just want it to poor rain!  RAIN BABY RAIN!!!!  And then let Webber win.
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Posted 12 July 2009 - 05:39 AM

View PostQuiet One, on 12 July 2009 - 02:50 AM, said:

Hi there! Do you happen to know which former STR driver seems likely to replace Fisico next year? Hint: it ain't Speed... :P

Source please.  :P

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Posted 12 July 2009 - 07:40 AM

Great pole for Mark well deserved. Should have been on pole in Silverstone if Kimi hadn't messed up his entry into Stowe. But thats history now.

This race will be an exact replay of Silverstone but with Mark and Seb the other way around in my opinion. Mark will romp away whilst Seb will be held up by either one of or both of the Brawns in the opening stint of the Grand Prix. And i'm not worried at all at the chance of rain Mark showed in China this year he has Seb covered for pace in the wet, along with the expirence as well.

Bring it .....

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Posted 12 July 2009 - 08:11 AM

Good to see you around Nathan, I join the rest of the forum in wishing Webbo well today... and let's see if you come around more if he wins :P
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Posted 12 July 2009 - 08:43 AM

We have a lottery on our hands today.  It's raining at the Nurnbergring and will do all day. Sutil on the podium?
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Posted 12 July 2009 - 09:17 AM

Rain all day? Sounds like good news to RBR... I predict Alonso and, sadly, Hammy to climb the ladder.

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Posted 12 July 2009 - 10:07 AM

View Postfreaky2, on 12 July 2009 - 08:11 AM, said:

Good to see you around Nathan, I join the rest of the forum in wishing Webbo well today... and let's see if you come around more if he wins :P

Thanks  :D

View PostInsider, on 12 July 2009 - 08:43 AM, said:

We have a lottery on our hands today.  It's raining at the Nurnbergring and will do all day. Sutil on the podium?

Fantastic news - First win in the wet will make it all the more sweet for Mark  :D

Us Aussies are going to have a great day, Mark Webber victory and a win in the fisrt test in the Ashes series.
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Posted 12 July 2009 - 11:37 AM

Yup, the Aussie army is back and is good to see both Jez and Nathan back! It only took a pole from Webber to resurrect you! :P
And here's your Source Jez, ye with no faith!
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Posted 12 July 2009 - 11:39 AM

View PostQuiet One, on 12 July 2009 - 02:50 AM, said:

Hi there! Do you happen to know which former STR driver seems likely to replace Fisico next year? Hint: it ain't Speed... :P
Is that Luzzi?

Thought I saw him driving a taxi in Modena.

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Posted 12 July 2009 - 12:10 PM

Well...that was quick even for Webber. :(

Lewis...when you want to make a clown of yourself you make a pretty damn job. Geez!
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Posted 12 July 2009 - 12:13 PM

View PostQuiet One, on 12 July 2009 - 12:10 PM, said:

Well...that was quick even for Webber. :(

Lewis...when you want to make a clown of yourself you make a pretty damn job. Geez!

Excuse me, that was a puncture from clipping Webber, or Webber clipping him, depending on how you see it. I don't think it's any worse than, say, spinning on the warm up lap :P
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Posted 12 July 2009 - 12:14 PM

Aggressive start to the race from Mark, Schumacher would be proud!!!!

View PostQuiet One, on 12 July 2009 - 11:37 AM, said:

Yup, the Aussie army is back and is good to see both Jez and Nathan back! It only took a pole from Webber to resurrect you! :P
And here's your Source Jez, ye with no faith!

Ha Ha Ha yeah it looks like that hey? Been missing you guys and girls.

View Postabbas_gear, on 12 July 2009 - 11:39 AM, said:

Is that Luzzi?

Thought I saw him driving a taxi in Modena.

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Posted 12 July 2009 - 12:15 PM

View PostQuiet One, on 12 July 2009 - 12:10 PM, said:

Well...that was quick even for Webber. :(



:lol:

Webber is not the chosen one! :P

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Posted 12 July 2009 - 12:22 PM

Drive through for Webber for that awfully naughty swerve.
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Posted 12 July 2009 - 12:23 PM

He definitely is not. Now a drive through :(
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Posted 12 July 2009 - 12:23 PM

View PostEl Maestro, on 12 July 2009 - 12:13 PM, said:

Excuse me, that was a puncture from clipping Webber, or Webber clipping him, depending on how you see it. I don't think it's any worse than, say, spinning on the warm up lap :P

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