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Rank The Current Drivers

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Saw this on PF1, thought it's a good idea. Just list your best to worst F1 drivers.

My list:

1. Lewis Hamilton

2. Fernando Alonso

3. Felipe Massa

4. Sebastian Vettel

5. Kimi Raikkonen

6. Nico Rosberg

7. Robert Kubica

8. Nick Heidfeld

9. Mark Webber

10. Jarno Trulli

11. Jenson Button

12. Adrian Sutil

13. Timo Glock

14. Sebastien Buemi

15. Rubens Barichello

16. Giancarlo Fisichella

17. Heikki Kovalainen

18. Jaime Alguersuari (impressive debut but we can't judge him properly yet)

19. Romain Grosjean (accident prone in GP2, don't know what to expect of him)

20. Kazuki Nakajima

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1.- Fernando Alonso.

2 to 20.- Who cares?

(lists are boring if there is no explanation on why you ranked the drivers that way...just my humble opinion)

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I think -as Jenson Button proved this year- there is a top drivers group: Nando, Hamilton, Webber, Massa, Heidfield and Kimi with a-soon-to-be-in-this-group drivers like Nico rosberg, Seb Vettel, kubica, Glock and maybe Buemi and Sutil. The rest is a mix of my-best-days-passed (Rubinho, Trulli and Fisico) and simply a bunch of very good drivers... for any series but F1 (Nakajima, Bourdais, Kovalainen).

For the sucess of each of these drivers is important the decissions they´ll take in the car and outside the car in terms of career managent and teams.

And yes Andrés, you´re right Lewis is the best... ooops! No Nando is the best package overall -till he drive a Ferrari, at least!

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1.- Fernando Alonso.

2 to 20.- Who cares?

I like your list.

I never understood those long list with more than one item. eusa_think.gif

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So logically your list is boring too :)

That would be true if it weren't for rule #2: "Any list of best F1 drivers that begins with Alonso on top is not only fun, but also accurate and hence informative as well. This rule supersedes rule number #1"

Hey, don't look at me. I don't make the rules. :whistling:

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My list:

1. Lewis Hamilton

2. Fernando Alonso

3. Sebastian Vettel

4. Kimi Raikkonen

5. Nico Rosberg

6. Robert Kubica

7. Massa

8. Romain Grosjean

9. Mark Webber

10.Nick Heidfeld

11.Timo Glock

12.Jarno Trulli

11.Jaime Alguersuari

12.Rubens Barichello

13.Heikki Kovalainen

14.Sebastien Buemi

15.Rubens Barichello

16.Giancarlo Fisichella

17.Heikki Kovalainen

18.Button

19.Kazuki Nakajima

20.Adrian Sutil

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Fernando Alonso

Sebastian Vettel

Lewis Hamilton

Mark Webber

Felipe Massa

Kimi R

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Fernando Alonso

Sebastian Vettel

Lewis Hamilton

Mark Webber

Felipe Massa

Kimi R

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Driver rankings are poinltess because they are subjective and difficult to qualify. Far better to rank the driver and car combination. Oh, hang on, they did it already with the current drivers points standings.

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Yes; lists don't necessarily mean anything. But with this summer vacation that Bernie scheduled for the 2009 season we need to stimulate our brains so I like pato's idea. As dribbler aptly pointed out, we can readily view the points standings if we wish to rank the current driver & car combination so I will take this instead as representing my somewhat subjective opinion of a driver's innate ability regardless of the equipment he happens to be driving this year.

  1. Fernando A.
  2. Sebastian V.
  3. Lewis H.
  4. Kimi R.
  5. Felipe M.
  6. Mark W.
  7. Robert K.
  8. Nico R.
  9. Jensen B.
  10. Timo G.

...and then there's the rest. Is it time for qualifying in Valencia yet?

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19. Romain Grosjean (accident prone in GP2, don't know what to expect of him)

Err, obviously you haven't seen much of GP2 this year.

1. Massa

2. Hamilton

3. Vettel

4. Webber

5. Button

6. Alonso

7. Kubica

8. Glock

9. Raikkonen

10. Barrichello.

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1.- Fernando Alonso.

2 to 20.- Who cares?

(lists are boring if there is no explanation on why you ranked the drivers that way...just my humble opinion)

you didn't say why you rank Alonso that high and we don't need to hear about that, we know you just don't need a reason but we also know that you need a reason to rank the rest of the drivers :naughty:

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I like your list.

I never understood those long list with more than one item. eusa_think.gif

I thought that having more than one item it would made it a list although every list will have to start with a first item and it is still a list from the beggining and maybe if you delete or erase the fisrt and only item from it, it will still be a list because you are working a list and you had a list in mind and you will have a list and at the end you will have a list with as many item as you want to include in that list like and you can see here how everyone made their list which it was suppose to include all drivers but some people just inlcude some of them, so I don't know what is a list and that makes pointless everything I said here but One thing is not pointless and is that I am not posting any list because I don't want to include Alonso in it, I'll wait until he is retired.

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I thought that having more than one item it would made it a list although every list will have to start with a first item and it is still a list from the beggining and maybe if you delete or erase the fisrt and only item from it, it will still be a list because you are working a list and you had a list in mind and you will have a list and at the end you will have a list with as many item as you want to include in that list like and you can see here how everyone made their list which it was suppose to include all drivers but some people just inlcude some of them, so I don't know what is a list and that makes pointless everything I said here but One thing is not pointless and is that I am not posting any list because I don't want to include Alonso in it, I'll wait until he is retired.

Oh, so a list has to have more than one item... Mmmm... eusa_think.gif

In that case we don't need a list. smile.gif

  1. Alonso

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Didn't try too hard, or Rubens Heidfeld and Hamilton would never be ahead of Robert. Not to mention Button behind Kimi. Geeze, woman, I didn't know South America was on another planet...

well that was cus lewis, rubens and nick ARE better than robert. and jenson is not that impressive, let's go back to past years when he didn't have the best car on the grid. people seem to forget all the other yrs jens raced, just because he is winning now.

as for fernando, im not his fan, and i don't even like him, but still, he is doing miracles in that sh***y car he's got. oh yes because a driver must impress me either in a good car AND a bad car. being the best in a brawn / red bull seems easy this season, like in a mclaren / ferrari has been in past years.

just so u know, nick is still ahead of robert in wdc ;) it's not because he won a race in which lewis played bowling with all the competitive cars on pitlane that he's gon go up in my list, maybe on urs, not mine. and no, nick is not the best driver in the world, but sorry robert isn't any better. ;)

love u too.

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just so u know, nick is still ahead of robert in wdc wink.gif it's not because he won a race in which lewis played bowling with all the competitive cars on pitlane that he's gon go up in my list, maybe on urs, not mine. and no, nick is not the best driver in the world, but sorry robert isn't any better. wink.gif

Well said!

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Used colors to divide the drivers in tiers.

1. Fernando Alonso

2. Sebastian Vettel

3. Lewis Hamilton

4. Felipe Massa

5. Kimi Raikkonen

6. Nico Rosberg

7. Robert Kubica

8. Jenson Button

9. Rubens Barrichello

10. Mark Webber

11. Timo Glock

12. Nick Heidfeld

13. Sebastien Buemi

14. Adrian Sutil

15. Jarno Trulli

16. Giancarlo Fisichella

17. Heikki Kovalainen

18. Sebastien Bourdais

19. Nelsinho Piquet

20. Kazuki Nakajima

Unranked:

Jaime Alguersuari

Romain Grosjean

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Used colors to divide the drivers in tiers.

1. Fernando Alonso

2. Sebastian Vettel

3. Lewis Hamilton

4. Felipe Massa

5. Kimi Raikkonen

6. Nico Rosberg

7. Robert Kubica

8. Jenson Button

9. Rubens Barrichello

10. Mark Webber

11. Timo Glock

12. Nick Heidfeld

13. Sebastien Buemi

14. Adrian Sutil

15. Jarno Trulli

16. Giancarlo Fisichella

17. Heikki Kovalainen

18. Sebastien Bourdais

19. Nelsinho Piquet

20. Kazuki Nakajima

Unranked:

Jaime Alguersuari

Romain Grosjean

That was real pretty. Surely though Piquet Jr is the only one in tiers?

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Kimi

Alonso

Kubica

Vettel

The rest are unproven or whatever-the-fck-else... although I wish many of them well and cheer them on.

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you didn't say why you rank Alonso that high and we don't need to hear about that, we know you just don't need a reason but we also know that you need a reason to rank the rest of the drivers :naughty:

I will help them out.

For having a crappy team mate, and a near empty fuel tank for making it to q3, and comitting pit blunders to save his face. :naughty:

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1. Fernando Alonso

2. Lewis Hamilton

3. Kimi Raikonnen

4. Jenson Button

5. Sebastian Vettel

6. Rubens Barrichello

7. Mark Webber

8. Robert Kubica

9. Nico Rosberg

10. Nick Heidfeld

11. Timo Glock

12. Heikki Kovalainen

13. Jarno Trulli

14. Romain Grosjean

15. Adrian Sutil

16. Giancarlo Fisichella

17. Jaime Alguersuari

18. Sebastien Buemi

19. Kazuki Nakajima

20. Luca Badoer (currently don't rate him)

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1. Fernando Alonso

2. Lewis Hamilton

3. Kimi Raikonnen

4. Jenson Button

5. Sebastian Vettel

6. Rubens Barrichello

7. Mark Webber

8. Robert Kubica

9. Nico Rosberg

10. Nick Heidfeld

11. Timo Glock

12. Heikki Kovalainen

13. Jarno Trulli

14. Romain Grosjean

15. Adrian Sutil

16. Giancarlo Fisichella

17. Jaime Alguersuari

18. Sebastien Buemi

19. Kazuki Nakajima

20. Luca Badoer (currently don't rate him)

Nando above Lewis? bbbut...

:(

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