Monaco

[LabradoRacer 2]

Kova driving like an angry bird.

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Seems like the top 6 are auditioning for the next instalment of "The Human Centipede".

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Investigation into Schumi-Gro incident. Hope Schumi isn't penalized, as it was nothing more than a racing incident.

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So, it's indeed 6 out of 6.

[Massa 0]

So I ended up seeing the final five laps of the race on the Sky Sports coverage, and I realize I'm just begging for it bringing this up, but I have to say that for all the BBC/Sky complaints, the only thing I find to be reasonable is any type of sadness that Brundle and Coulthard are no longer together. I find that Brundle's really, really good, still, but both Croft and Edwards are nothing short of horrible so that's too bad. Anyway, Sky had fewer commercial breaks than SPEED (obviously I didn't see SPEED but based on precedent they would have been on an ad break with two laps left), so that's nice, too.

The race itself...

1) What is the protest of the Red Bull they were talking about?

2) MASSA!

Cool to see the cars close at the finish (no idea how that happened), wish someone would have had a way to pass, but that's Monaco. I guess I missed everything important and exciting.

[Massa 0]

And with Montréal being Montréal, I can't help but expect a seventh winner.

[Quiet One 15]

Not too fun of a race, but pretty intense towards the finish! AN attrition race if there ever was one.

I feel sad for Vergne. The team blinked and they lost a good result. Massa has discovered that he can be useful for something more than being an organ donor.

At Monaco, having the best car means nothing, but something is clear, and that is that, at present, I am not sure which one is actually the best car. McLaren seemed to have it but in any case it never was the super mega hyperdrive car compared to the rest that RBR and BGP enjoyed in the past years. Worryngly, neither the strategy nor the luck is helping them. The field is closer now (Alonso leading the championship in a car that was headed for the scrapyeard a few weeks ago gives proof of this).

Well, 6 races and we still have not the slightest hint on how will the season unfold. Me likes it.

[Quiet One 15]

BTW disappointingly awful drive from Perez. And what happened to Kimi? Such an anonymous rae after his Trulli Train Revisited, I forgot about my Team Poochie! I still have high hopes for them to finish higher next race, as long as they can stay away from Schumi

OH, and I know how frsutrating it must have been for Buttonites in general, but Kovy made a great effort, helped of course by the frustrating nature of Monaco.

[JHS18 0]

Disappointing for Grosjean and Schumacher....

Average race. I wouldn't say it was boring, because Monaco is so special just seeing the cars get so close to the barriers lap after lap. Just knowing one mistake from a leading car could change things considerably makes it more interesting than say, Valencia. But great result for the championship and looking forward to Montreal.

Overtaking is notoriously difficult at Monaco, so it is a bit ridiculous to moan knowing that. I was entertained.

Shame the rain didn't fall a bit heavier, but I bet if it had it'd have been red flagged and we wouldn't have seen a full race distance.

[AleHop 0]

It was nice not to see fake overtakings for a change.

6 winners in 6 races WOW!

:thumbsup:

[brambilla 0]

Was Webber just tired or did he seem unusually subdued post-race ?

[Quiet One 15]

To put things in perspective. At this point of the season last year, Button had exactly the same points tally Alonso has this year...and he was 4th on the championship.

In 2011 after Monaco the santdings were:

1 Vettel 143 pts vs Alonso (2012) 76!

2 Hamilton 85

3 Webber 79

4 Button 76

5 Alonso 69!

Quite a different scenario huh?

[F1 FANatic 1]

Another meh Monaco race. I understand why they run there. I know people find it cool and glitzy but I would rather see them running twice at silverstone or Spa or Monza or Nuerburg than watching Monaco. I literally watched the race at 2x speed on my DVR. The only thing of note that happened is that Hamilton pulled a Hamilton and Schumi had ANOTHER mechanical problem.

Plus a bunch of backmarkers droped out of the race......

Let's hope Canada is going to be a better race. We all know though that with the crap Perrelli is bringing we will see driver drive down the back strait at 50kph because their tyres can't last more than 3 laps. Last year the tire deg was already rediculous. What do you think will happen this year?

[Insider 0]

No driver has suffered a fatal accident in F1 since 1994 but if Pastor Maldonado continues to let his temper rule his head that could change quickly. I was standing in the Marshals station to the right of Granstand C just before Portier (Turn 8) when the maniac from Venezuela drove straight into the side of an unsuspecting Perez. I was horrified as were the French Marshals I was with. Marshals love racing but cannot abide idiocy. Such behaviour puts them, the spectators, photographers and every other driver at risk. Fortunately, he didn't get passed lap 1 in the race. Marshals are all volunteers. Including @100 professional firefighters dotted around the course there were over 600+ Intervention, Fire, Flag, Communications and Pit Marshals at a Monaco GP. They have a unique view. Everything is at ground level. They could tell any driver more about how his car is handling than any TV pundit or sophisticated telemetry. At least, they think they could! They do have a vast knowledge of the sport and a passion that knows no bounds. I spent FP2 at the Chicane and Quali up in Casino Square. It really is breathtaking to be that close to the action. It's also completely deafening! My tinnitis is killing me tonight. There are so many stories from this race but I didn't see them first hand and to be fair you probably saw as much as me in the end. I am most grateful that my friend Marco got me the invite because it was so much fun despite not being able to access my usual hunting grounds. So I am writing this in the office of Le Moods disco where I have played in the past - need their wi-fi to send it! Back to Blighty tomorrow.

[Quiet One 15]

@Sean, glad you had such an incredibly experience! I envy you in a healthy way. Bah, who am I kidding? I hate you! I wish I was there! I'll kill ya! I'll kill all of ya!

Ok, next question: any words on the many investigations the FIA saved for the post race? It could have a high impact in the case of Vettel.

[JHS18 0]

@Sean, glad you had such an incredibly experience! I envy you in a healthy way. Bah, who am I kidding? I hate you! I wish I was there! I'll kill ya! I'll kill all of ya!

Ok, next question: any words on the many investigations the FIA saved for the post race? It could have a high impact in the case of Vettel.

Why just Vettel? Webber is tied on points with Sebastian now.

Results stand, no investigation.

[Quiet One 15]

Why just Vettel? Webber is tied on points with Sebastian now.

Results stand, no investigation.

I wasn't referring to the RBR floor thingie. I meant the investigation over the race incidents, like overtaking off track at lap 1 and Vettel was one of those.Also the Kimi/Perez incident, the Perez/Evreybody else incident, the Schum/Grosejan incident, etc.

The official Formula 1 site should have a result of all those incidents that are to be reviewed after the ace after every race, they don't mention anything.

[Quiet One 15]

Oh, and perhaps an investigation of the UFO landings on Hamilton's head should be in order?

Also: somebody should have told Kimi that James Hunt's only finish at Monaco in 7 years was a lowly 9th place in his rookie year. He never finished the race in the next 6 and actually retired from F1 altogether after his last Monaco race (which was, of course, a DNF)

Vettel to Ferrari? The silly season's special this weekend was that a pre agreement was signed for 2013. Alonso+Vettel+Ferrari= North Korea for those who are not fans of any of these. All the bad guys in a single package!

[Argento Reloaded 1]

Sergio Perez lost his temper too during the race.

Somo thoughts to share:

Great 10 last laps!

Button is lost; Macca is loosing ground.

RedBull is trying as hard as they can: they has the resources, the money and the genious, so be carefull to write them off.

Ferrari is improoving (also) so at the end of the season the most probably scenario is Ferrari vs RedBull.

Schumacher ... well ... in another topic...

Chapeau to Vergne but not for the team... The Casino is better place to bet.

Mercedes seems to needs and aditional 1%... maybe they´ll find it some race

[Ikyrotz 0]

I wasn't referring to the RBR floor thingie. I meant the investigation over the race incidents, like overtaking off track at lap 1 and Vettel was one of those.Also the Kimi/Perez incident, the Perez/Evreybody else incident, the Schum/Grosejan incident, etc.

The official Formula 1 site should have a result of all those incidents that are to be reviewed after the ace after every race, they don't mention anything.

At least Vettel's first lap shortcut was dealt during the race, no penalties, as well as Perez' pit-entry cutting Kimi, which yielded Perez a drive-through penalty.

[HandyNZL 1]

Monaco is a track the hides inadequacies in cars. Why is it that Williams was able to podium here in recent years, yet struggle to finish 20th at every other race? I would not bet the house, nor my left testicle, that Ferrari is any better now than when they were in Malaysia to be quite honest.

[dribbler 6]

There are a lot of other drivers whining about the boots but the don't get the coverage Jens does.

That's a very valid point, and I agree that it distorts the overall impression. However, Jenson is underperforming relative to a lot of the other drivers. That will no doubt be of great concern to him. It's of great interest and intrigue to me. I wonder what it is about his particular style that is hurting him in this situation? I do hope he unravels the mystery and returns to his rightful place at the front with the other usual suspects.

As for Maldonado. I rather think thatif I was at Monaco, had witnessed the incident first hand and was enveloped by the opinions of Marshalls who do risk their lives, I would be angry and share your opinion. For the record I also have a personal problem with drivers who pay their way to drive. I also find the fact that his Father paid his way out of trouble for his previous misdemeanors even more dispicable.

But here's the thing; That temperament brings qualities as well as vices. He is quite obviously a very good driver. I'm not going to jump on the bandwagon and call for his banning, because I think that is an over reaction. He does need a very stern talking to though, before one of his silly moves does indeed risk the life of another.

The race was very good, I thought. Schumacher's situation was personally very disappointing, but handled very well. His time will come and it might just be at Montreal where he is traditionally very strong.

Alonso must be pinching himself. If the others don't find consistency soon, he might just stsrt being a bit silly and actually believing he could win the title.

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I wasn't referring to the RBR floor thingie. I meant the investigation over the race incidents, like overtaking off track at lap 1 and Vettel was one of those.Also the Kimi/Perez incident, the Perez/Evreybody else incident, the Schum/Grosejan incident, etc.

The official Formula 1 site should have a result of all those incidents that are to be reviewed after the ace after every race, they don't mention anything.

Ah okay, understand. Thought you were talking about McLaren getting p*ssy about Red Bull's floor.

I'm not saying this just because I like Vettel - but I found it ridiculous that they'd even look at the short cut thing on lap one. It was pretty obvious from the onboard shot that he had nowhere else to go. What is he supposed to do? Crash into a spinning car and cause more mayhem?

Seriously, I think sometimes the stewards should just throw the rule book out the window and look at incidents with a bit of common sense for once.

Same applies for the Maldonado thing. So someone who deliberately caused a collision with another car gets a ten place penalty, yet someone who runs out of fuel after qualifying gets put to the back of the grid (in the case of Hamilton)? Pretty bloody inconsistent if you ask me...

[AleHop 0]

Monaco is a track the hides inadequacies in cars. Why is it that Williams was able to podium here in recent years, yet struggle to finish 20th at every other race? I would not bet the house, nor my left testicle, that Ferrari is any better now than when they were in Malaysia to be quite honest.

Monaco hides inadequacies in cars and shows inadequacies in drivers. Why is it that Massa was unable to finish among the best in recent races, yet he does in Monaco? Ferrari will probably struggle in Montreal as it is a medium/slow corners and top speed type of circuit but the car looks better now. Massa's problems are more related to the car and tires than it is to the 2009 accident.

[pabloh20 1]

Ah okay, understand. Thought you were talking about McLaren getting p*ssy about Red Bull's floor.

I'm not saying this just because I like Vettel - but I found it ridiculous that they'd even look at the short cut thing on lap one. It was pretty obvious from the onboard shot that he had nowhere else to go. What is he supposed to do? Crash into a spinning car and cause more mayhem?

Seriously, I think sometimes the stewards should just throw the rule book out the window and look at incidents with a bit of common sense for once.

Same applies for the Maldonado thing. So someone who deliberately caused a collision with another car gets a ten place penalty, yet someone who runs out of fuel after qualifying gets put to the back of the grid (in the case of Hamilton)? Pretty bloody inconsistent if you ask me...

Yeah, it does seem odd, but it comes down to the rules they have broken. The Maldanado incident is open to interpreation by the stewards/FIA, whereas the running out of fuel is not. Not saying I agree with it, it's just the nature of the beast.