c21 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2008 Oh dear. Read the link................ http://www.totalf1.com/fullstory/view/2410...le_win_in_2009/ Nuff said........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maure 1 Report post Posted January 13, 2008 For Honda yes, for Button no. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dribbler 6 Report post Posted January 13, 2008 I'm going to retire to the Bahamas next year because i am expecting a 10,000% increase in my company's profitability. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
c21 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2008 I'm going to retire to the Bahamas next year because i am expecting a 10,000% increase in my company's profitability. Then I think I should ask for a job on your board of directors! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Rumble Strip 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2008 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
c21 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2008 Maybe, maybe not.Honda will be stronger in 2009 than they were in 2008. In turn, they will be stronger in 2008 than they were in 2007. A title is a little optimistic but don't count them out. But were they not supposed to be stronger in 2007 after that first win in 2006? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Rumble Strip 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2008 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rainmaster 7 Report post Posted January 13, 2008 Well if they recover their end of 2006 form this season, and then naturally extend and develop that form into 2009, then a title would be within reach. Of course whether they can do that is another thing altogether, personally I think Honda & Button as a combination will never be champions, even with the help of good old Ross Brawn. Button almost certainly has the talent to be a champion though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
c21 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2008 They were but they didn't have Brawn then, who I expect to turn them around somewhat. Like Newey shot Red Bull to the top last year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Rumble Strip 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2008 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
c21 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2008 Ah but I never said Newey would turn Red Bull around.I take the point though and and in all seriousness I doubt they will win the title in 2009. When a team is as bad as Honda was last year, it can take years and years for them to come back. You don't win races overnight and teams that don Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kati 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2008 Pfff... Well, we all know whats gon happen. If he fails, we'll have a third autobiography. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eric 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2008 I have to defend Button. He said "we have to" He didn't say "we will" He said "we have to" As in a threat. As in they don't, bad things will happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikathegreat2 2 Report post Posted January 13, 2008 I don't really need to read the article cos all I can say about the title is ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LabradoRacer 2 Report post Posted January 13, 2008 So Honda is all-brawn-no-brains now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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massaikonen 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2008 nothing wrong with a bit of optimism and confidence Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dribbler 6 Report post Posted January 13, 2008 Ah but I never said Newey would turn Red Bull around.I take the point though and and in all seriousness I doubt they will win the title in 2009. When a team is as bad as Honda was last year, it can take years and years for them to come back. You don't win races overnight and teams that don Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jez 0 Report post Posted January 13, 2008 So Honda is all-brawn-no-brains now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eric 0 Report post Posted January 14, 2008 I don't really need to read the article cos all I can say about the title is ! The joys of journalism, young Danny. Poor journalists exaggerate to draw attention. Good journalists write truthful articles about things that are interesting unaltered. This is poor journalism. Jenson is basically threatening Honda to step it up. The journalist made the title seem like he was being a DC so that people would read the article. It's a tough life, having every word analyzed. If he says "I think Honda suck," there goes his job and he will be bashed for having no faith in his team and some idiot will say that he was blaming his team and not himself. If he says "Honda can win," he is bashed for being c#cky, and if he's wrong, he suffers. If he answers every question with "No comment," he'll have no fans. When one assumes, they make an *** out of you and me. Funny how we all assume Jenson is wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aussief1 4 Report post Posted January 14, 2008 Ross isnt' at Honda to muck around. With the right changes made, Honda could well be challenging for the occasional podium in 2009 but not wins on outright pace, maybe 2010. It was only 2006 when this outfit with Jenson at the wheel of the RA106 out scored the entire field in the final quarter of the season & won a GP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Medilloni 6 Report post Posted January 14, 2008 The joys of journalism, young Danny. Poor journalists exaggerate to draw attention. Good journalists write truthful articles about things that are interesting unaltered.This is poor journalism. Jenson is basically threatening Honda to step it up. The journalist made the title seem like he was being a DC so that people would read the article. It's a tough life, having every word analyzed. If he says "I think Honda suck," there goes his job and he will be bashed for having no faith in his team and some idiot will say that he was blaming his team and not himself. If he says "Honda can win," he is bashed for being c#cky, and if he's wrong, he suffers. If he answers every question with "No comment," he'll have no fans. When one assumes, they make an *** out of you and me. Funny how we all assume Jenson is wrong. Exactly. Thanks for a damn fine summing up Eric - especially the bit in bold. We have the age of 'be nice to the press', what does anyone expect? Jaysus, I hope the car is half decent this year.......... four or five cars on a similar pace would be magic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jean Todt 4 Report post Posted January 14, 2008 Power of dreams I guess! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Medilloni 6 Report post Posted January 14, 2008 Power of dreams I guess! OK, OK. My dreams may be wet ones. But they're mine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jean Todt 4 Report post Posted January 14, 2008 OK, OK. My dreams may be wet ones. But they're mine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
