Diffuser Saga Over Then!!!!

[monza gorilla 1]

I think Renault is contemplating court action against FIA. If they have communication records on paper, I would go after FIA in court and make them suffer for **** up they caused to Renault.

I doubt that. All it would achieve is to show that the Renault diffuser proposal was in contravention of the regs. Probably. I'd surmise that their version didn't use the crash structure as the loophole. And that their holes were holes and not slots. Possibly.

[BradSpeedMan 6]

Really Brad, it's not so hard! xD

And don't even try with the "Diffusers" then

Hey, what do you think about my comment on Reina.... pshycologically, I think his slip let Chelsea win!

[BradSpeedMan 6]

Indeed Brad, I'm confused with the username changes too, though I am Chronologically Advanced, what's your excuse?

hahahaa I can't beat that!!!

[BradSpeedMan 6]

I think you should change your name to The Stewards. Then we can all slag you off

hey illegal Brawn diffuser, whatsup????

[Quiet One 15]

Currently enduring a day of fury at work. I didn't have time to check the news but if the diffusers have been declared legal then I am glad.

I have no idea whether they are actually fair or not, of course. But I like the idea of the top teams having to work harder and the field order being upset.

The other way around would have been nice for Renault, but boring.

[Kay 0]

In my honest opinion I don't think the diffusers are legal.... The FIA just did'nt want to embarrass themselves with the notion of having to disqualify and strip points of teams....

well said!!!

[Argento Reloaded 1]

The FIA proceeded as I expect: a political issue with tech justifications. if they disqualify 3 team from 2 races they

[Quiet One 15]

Ok, this I don't understand. Why was everybody expecting the diffuser gang to have their points removed. If the diffuser was declared illegal, wouldn't t hat be the same case as with the mass damper? In that case the team was simply not allowed to continue using it but no points were lost. Why would have been different in this case?

[pumpdoc 2]

Ok, this I don't understand. Why was everybody expecting the diffuser gang to have their points removed. If the diffuser was declared illegal, wouldn't t hat be the same case as with the mass damper? In that case the team was simply not allowed to continue using it but no points were lost. Why would have been different in this case?

Agreed, indeed.

Now to the other teams it's game on, get cracking!!!

[Kay 0]

Ok, this I don't understand. Why was everybody expecting the diffuser gang to have their points removed. If the diffuser was declared illegal, wouldn't t hat be the same case as with the mass damper? In that case the team was simply not allowed to continue using it but no points were lost. Why would have been different in this case?

that Ross Brawn wasn't expecting to have his removed

[Insider 0]

I have purposely stayed out of this since successive steward decisions were appealed. Brawn are the new power in F1 and a very serious racing team, to boot. JB has shown he is, and always was a Champion in the making when the right car came along. They have my utmost respect.

[maure 1]

And FIA takes a step closer to the edge of the cliff...

It's telling the amount of neurosis one can see in the forums. So many changes to changes on top of changes that were not meant to be changes but that were declared legitimate changes after all the changes... sums up the F1 rule book.

So, what's legal now and what's not?

Since, for example, the dimensions of the now legal legal (double necessity) diffusers are outside of the rulebook as written, what are the dimensions that the others teams are to use? Is a diffuser of any size now legal? Or, perhaps, does BGP determine now what's legal?

It will be interesting to see what other teams come up with and what "logic" does FIA use to keep things within of their intentions regarding the outcome of the season...

In any case, much fun to be had with the options now open to all.

[BradSpeedMan 6]

I have purposely stayed out of this since successive steward decisions were appealed. Brawn are the new power in F1 and a very serious racing team, to boot. JB has shown he is, and always was a Champion in the making when the right car came along. They have my utmost respect.

I purposely knew you were quiet and would respond if the diffuser saga was decared legal. Now how did I know that??

[mikathegreat2 2]

Now lets get back to racing please!!!!!

Damn straight!

[Quiet One 15]

Well, it's great news for Brawn and whoever will make some real money with that team, this will be enought to keep them afloat into next year. It's good and deserved for Toyota and Williams that been struggling all these years.

And, imho, it is good for Renault, BMW, Macca and Ferrari who now will have to prove how great they are. I am hoping Renault will make me proud! These can be "their finest hour" Is always more special to watch them turn luck in their favor than watch them cruising to victory.

Biggest losers: the remaining teams. Unless they can make their own spectacular comebacks, of course.

[Jean Todt 4]

Well, it's great news for Brawn and whoever will make some real money with that team, this will be enought to keep them afloat into next year. It's good and deserved for Toyota and Williams that been struggling all these years.

And, imho, it is good for Renault, BMW, Macca and Ferrari who now will have to prove how great they are. I am hoping Renault will make me proud! These can be "their finest hour" Is always more special to watch them turn luck in their favor than watch them cruising to victory.

Biggest losers: the remaining teams. Unless they can make their own spectacular comebacks, of course.

I suspect Mclaren have already been readying Diffusers, I noticed their silence even before the Lairgate scandal broke out!

[Medilloni 6]

Well, it's great news for Brawn and whoever will make some real money with that team, this will be enought to keep them afloat into next year. It's good and deserved for Toyota and Williams that been struggling all these years.

And, imho, it is good for Renault, BMW, Macca and Ferrari who now will have to prove how great they are. I am hoping Renault will make me proud! These can be "their finest hour" Is always more special to watch them turn luck in their favor than watch them cruising to victory.

Biggest losers: the remaining teams. Unless they can make their own spectacular comebacks, of course.

Your magnamity is admirable Andres In fact, I feel the need to be deep for a moment... Change is inevitable, nothing lasts forever, aint life sweet.

Seriously, you're right about watching the rise of the once-mighty and I wish (almost) Renault (am I saying this?) the best (nearly) of luck. You have no idea how much that hurt Oh, and this only applies when JB has had a decent play in his new car, like 8 wins

[Max Mosley 2]

It will be interesting to see what other teams come up with and what "logic" does FIA use to keep things within of their intentions regarding the outcome of the season...

Perhaps the FIA have a clear interpretation of the rules that has been backed up by the recent ruling.

I purposely knew you were quiet and would respond if the diffuser saga was decared legal. Now how did I know that??

Because he's an insider and couldn't possibly comment on an on-going investigation.

(We're just kidding, Insider. )

[The Rumble Strip 0]

Glad that appeal has ruled this way.

[pumpdoc 2]

Game over

Now on with the season, may the best team win.

[AutoRacer5 0]

Finally, Innovation's actually allowed to happen.

[Max Mosley 2]

...to the detriment of the sport, as always. It'll surely ruin the aero reductions for this year.

[JayStorm 0]

They'll change the rules for everyone next year so now we can just let them run this year out.

Very happy with this decision. But yeah, hopefully the overtaking etc doesn't suffer with them all having this type of aero stuff at the back.

[F1 FANatic 1]

well, the season is over pretty much. its going to be another 04. But I guess what id does do is allow the other teams an extra year for the 2010 car. If I were Ferrari I would just pull out now, not waist the money on 09 and come back in 2010. Its too expensive to redevelop the whole back end and if they make it to the top Brawn will already have too big a lead. i say Ferrari, Renault, BMW and Merc should just pull out save the money used for running the car and come back in 2010

[Max Mosley 2]

Call me a delusional old man, but I still expect Ferrari at least to challenge Brawn for the WDC. Hopefully McLaren et al. can too. There's a long way to go yet, at least I hope so.